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[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

We're at a point where America's great public protectors of free speech and baseline decency are:

  1. The "Veejay" of a clip show of shortened airline-food standup sets.
  2. One half of the duo who brought the world "Girls Jumping on Trampolines."
  3. Zazu from the bad version of the Lion King.

They're doing good work, but christ on a cracker they shouldn't have been tasked with this job.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
  1. The "Veejay" of a clip show of shortened airline-food standup sets.

I got that the latter two were Jimmy Kimmel and John Oliver. You lost me on this one.

Edit: Also, don't forget 4. The man so good at satire that he simultaneously convinced stupid right wingers he represented them and only slightly less stupid left wingers that satirizing the right meant that he actually represented them until he got a new non-satire show and turns out he's just a left leaning centrist with an expert level knowledge of The Lord Of The Rings lore, but still calls a fascist a fascist.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Number 1 is Jon Stewart, though to be fair I had kinda thought he was on the 80s game show "Remote Control" on MTV and had to pivot when I learned he was not. :-)

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I get your point but I do think it's a little reductive to gloss over the fact that Oliver and Stewart have done an actually-good job of covering news all these years.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I was sort of intentionally being reductive to make the point that it's pretty fucked up that our bravest and most trustworthy media figures all come out of comedy, some of it pretty low-brow.

There's some decent voices in the American mainstream media, but most of them are so terrified of getting canceled by the so-called free-speech absolutists that the satirists (if one can even call Kimmel that) are having to do real work in spreading information and speaking truth to power.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I get what you were saying, I just think we can also recognize comedians can do good work while making jokes at the same time. They always have done this. The good ones, anyhow.