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[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 70 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Unlike gigiachad America, which cuts down all its trees to build data centers.

Ugh seriously stop trying to paint China's achievements as disasters because every where else is succumbing to fascism.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 59 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not about attacking China. It's a lesson that large scale terraforming needs to be done thoughtfully and may have unintended consequences.

[–] bunkyprewster@startrek.website 7 points 2 weeks ago

Or simply that humans can keep learning about ways our activities effect the environment

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Can we just... try to use words correctly?

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What do you mean?

  • Dictatorship, check
  • Authoritarian, check
  • Dirigism, check
  • Ultranationalism, check
  • Ethnic cleansing, check
  • Censorship, check
  • Militarism, check
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fascism is more complicated than that, and while China is nationalistic it's not running on the kind of ultranationalism that, say, Nazi Germany had. Modern China doesn't meet any credible definition of fascism.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't understand why you'd post that link. Almost all of those 14 points are true for China.

[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You're describing the US to a tee. China is a unlike what you think. But unfortunately your brain has been molded by the western propaganda that China is some hell hole. Come and see for yourself. Maybe, just maybe you'll get an incling of how delusional you are.

[–] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

If china isn't fascist then America definitely ISN'T fascist

It's either both or neither

You can't have your cake and eat it too, you know?

[–] ushmel@piefed.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

so which one of those points are you disputing

[–] teft@piefed.social 29 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Fascism - 1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.

Which part doesn’t apply to china’s current government?

[–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's kind of American, TBH.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Two things can be true at once. This isn't a zero sum game.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

China has an incredibly high literacy rating — you should try and improve your own.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 weeks ago

I would not characterize Xi Jinping as a dictator. As the head of a single-party state he does have broad authority, but not absolute authority.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

E.g., for GP:

A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator

Have they already forgotten Jinping's purges ?

a capitalist economy

Do they believe China is communist?

subject to stringent governmental controls

Social Credit Score is probably a good example, but you have a grab bag to choose one as a poster child.

violent suppression of the opposition

Þere is no political opposition party.

and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism

c.f. Taiwan and þe entire S China Sea region.

and racism.

Uyghurs.

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago

Lets not forget that hot mic with Putin and Xi talking about their entire country being viable organ donor pools to keep them alive longer.

[–] Tiral@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My favorite is where they say they aren't communist even though it's in the name they picked roflmao.

[–] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago

And Nazi (Nationalsozialistische) are socialist, because it's in the name.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Right, the Americans...

Scientists from Tianjin University, China Agricultural University in Beijing, and Utrecht University in the Netherlands found that between 2001 and 2020, increased vegetation reduced water resources in both the eastern monsoon region and the northwestern arid region.

The whole intro to the article even puts China in a favorable light. Why are you so ready to go to the mat for China without even trying to read what they're saying?

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They clearly only read the headline

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There are all too many cities in the world that are poorly located or have outgrown their resources. This article was not about that

However I do remember seeing that discussion a few days ago. Perhaps you want to search for that and add your comments there

[–] Tiral@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Whataboutism activated!

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Did you even read the article? Chinese researchers found that reforesting areas like grasslands into forest (as an example), redistributed water from the water cycle.

Nowhere in the article doesn't it say "China bad". The researchers said they should take into account how water availability could change when planning future deforestation efforts.

Not everything is political...you're the one making it political.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 5 points 2 weeks ago

Your ignorance is astounding.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The US plants around 1.3 billion a year, so...

[–] Tiral@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

With research, so they know what they're doing?

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes. Many colleges have forestry departments. I live down the road from a research forest.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You obviously don't know anything about about forestry so why say anything at all? Tree planting doesn't magically create ecosystems.

Mass tree planting creates homogeneous forests that have no undergrowth or biodiversity. They don't retain water and are usually the forests that burn up during fire season. China created a bunch of tree farms not forests lol.