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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Can we just... try to use words correctly?

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What do you mean?

  • Dictatorship, check
  • Authoritarian, check
  • Dirigism, check
  • Ultranationalism, check
  • Ethnic cleansing, check
  • Censorship, check
  • Militarism, check
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fascism is more complicated than that, and while China is nationalistic it's not running on the kind of ultranationalism that, say, Nazi Germany had. Modern China doesn't meet any credible definition of fascism.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't understand why you'd post that link. Almost all of those 14 points are true for China.

[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You're describing the US to a tee. China is a unlike what you think. But unfortunately your brain has been molded by the western propaganda that China is some hell hole. Come and see for yourself. Maybe, just maybe you'll get an incling of how delusional you are.

[–] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

If china isn't fascist then America definitely ISN'T fascist

It's either both or neither

You can't have your cake and eat it too, you know?

[–] ushmel@piefed.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

so which one of those points are you disputing

[–] teft@piefed.social 29 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Fascism - 1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.

Which part doesn’t apply to china’s current government?

[–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's kind of American, TBH.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Two things can be true at once. This isn't a zero sum game.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

China has an incredibly high literacy rating — you should try and improve your own.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 weeks ago

I would not characterize Xi Jinping as a dictator. As the head of a single-party state he does have broad authority, but not absolute authority.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

E.g., for GP:

A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator

Have they already forgotten Jinping's purges ?

a capitalist economy

Do they believe China is communist?

subject to stringent governmental controls

Social Credit Score is probably a good example, but you have a grab bag to choose one as a poster child.

violent suppression of the opposition

Þere is no political opposition party.

and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism

c.f. Taiwan and þe entire S China Sea region.

and racism.

Uyghurs.

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago

Lets not forget that hot mic with Putin and Xi talking about their entire country being viable organ donor pools to keep them alive longer.

[–] Tiral@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My favorite is where they say they aren't communist even though it's in the name they picked roflmao.

[–] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago

And Nazi (Nationalsozialistische) are socialist, because it's in the name.