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may not be in my recent history but sure I will engage with folks but if its not going anywhere I will eventually say something like we have a fundamental disagreement. Whats funny is sometimes the person will keep on exchanging so I will say some stuff but repeat that, you know, we just disagree. I will only state it a few times before stopping to respond and sometimes the person keeps on responding to my last one like two or three times. Anyway if a discussion is not swaying either one of us and we are not getting anything out of it then that is what I do. I don't think I had one go over a week long before hitting that point but maybe.