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Also curious about things that are the other way around where they look really good but taste awful.

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[–] MissesAutumnRains@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

I'm gonna catch hate for this, but I don't care. I have a thing that physically looks awful, but also seems conceptually awful.

Sometimes, if I have the money and I wanna get a little treat, I'll buy a block of cheese, Nutella, and bread, and make a Nutella and cheese sandwich. I do not know why or how I got to the point where I ate it, but I did and I love it.

Usually, I'd get like a pecorino romano cheese, cut a couple slices of dark (full grain) bread, and just paste it in place with Nutella, and that would be a little desert for me. If I have a lot of cheese on there, I might add raspberry jam (not too much or it gets waaaaay too sweet).

[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you, by chance, a rat who controls a French man and helps him with cooking?

[–] MissesAutumnRains@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If the position's open, I'm there! But alas, I am a rat for free at this time. :3

[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I'm sure there's a French man to be ridden and controlled around here somewhere.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Nutella is swimming in palm oil IIRC. Maybe a cocoa-based version could work?

[–] MissesAutumnRains@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] MissesAutumnRains@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm having a bit of trouble understanding what it's saying about how bad it is, but I get the impression less is just better always? Either way, though, you can for sure swap out Nutella with anything else vaguely in the same ballpark. What makes the sandwich so good is the cheese and vaguely chocolate flavor. If you do try something else out and decide it's good, please let me know!

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] MissesAutumnRains@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

That's where I followed on as well, but it kept seeming like I was finding mixed results on the articles. I don't know enough about which studies are funded by which groups, and I'm pretty sure I'm finding biased stuff. It's okay, though, I'm not asking you to look things up for me, I just was curious if you had some kind of insight into the industry or not.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think if you drill down a bit past the first paragraph citing uncertainty, you'll find there's a pretty consistent body of scientific findings naming various ill-health effects. Maybe follow up on those specific studies, supplementing with ScienceDaily and PubMed material as needed?

I'm not a nutritionist, and haven't spent much time myself researching palm oil studies, but I can tell you as someone who's tried to keep abreast of nutritional news for decades, so far I've only seen negative findings upon palm oil, both as a food and as an ecological agent of destruction.

[–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 3 weeks ago

I think that perhaps unrefined palm oil is not as bad, but it is bright red and has a strong flavour. Industrially refined any sort of seed oil is best avoided.

[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know, I think the problem was in ethical issues about how it is cultivated.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago

It's a cheap and tasteless alternative to cocoa butter, it's used in shit tier chocolate.

[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe, I would try more hazelnut instead.

[–] dkppunk@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago

I’m not going to hate on this at all. I’d probably eat it myself.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

My first thought was the only way this could be good is with sharp parmesan. I'd probably smash this.

[–] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I do PB and cheese sometimes; it’s awesome. Not a big fan of Nutella, but I imagine it’s the same kind of combo with the sweet and savory mix. Sometimes I’ll add a piece of salami into the mix also, but it’s fine without it, too.

Though, in my opinion, if you want a home run quick sandwich, make a PB&J but then butter the outside and cook it like a grilled cheese. To die for.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

You know, it had never occured to me to do cheese and nutella, but that actually does sound like exactly the kind of snack that hits a wide range of flavor notes, that I would make.

Like, I've done something kind of comparable, maybe:

An everything bagel, toasted, cream cheese, strawberry jam.

Most people would probably do that on a plain bagel, and find the salty and oniony/garlicy bits and such to be nonconformant with the rest of it being basically smooth and sweet... but i like the whole package of flavors approach, as long as they're well balanced.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Made even better by the addition of a slice of salami.

[–] MissesAutumnRains@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly, if you add salami, I would say bump up the jam you put on it, too. The extra umami makes room for more sweet. I bet this absolutely rules.

[–] Apeman42@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

bump up the jam

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