Unpopular Opinion
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1. NO POLITICS
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2. Be civil.
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4. Shitposts and memes are allowed but...
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5. No trolling.
This shouldn't need an explanation. If your post or comment is made just to get a rise with no real value, it will be removed. You do this too often, you will get a vacation to touch grass, away from this community for 1 or more days. Repeat offenses will result in a perma-ban.
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This is a bit of a mix of rules 4 and 5 to help foster higher quality posts. You are expected to defend your unpopular opinion in the post body. We don't expect a whole manifesto (please, no manifestos), but you should at least provide some details as to why you hold the position you do.
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from what I'm aware of.
modern TVs are sold at a loss because they then profit of your data.
if that agreement was explicit, I would consider "not connecting it to the Internet" stealing, but a good stealing.
but it isn't explicit, so it is more like you pritecting yourself from data theft
I strongly doubt that. Maybe they sell at a lower margin to keep competitive, but they'd never sell at a loss. Okay, on paper maybe because they know exactly how to tune those numbers. But in the end, they make profit.
i think there are companies that sell product at a loss. like Costco hot dogs. I heard game consoles do too.
My arguement is they sell TVs at a loss, expecting to make it up with my data.
But they don't sell any TVs that DON'T do that.
I'd easily pay $20,000 for a 200 inch dumb tv at 8k, BUT THAT DOESN'T EXIST!!!
So I have to make due with a dumb projector.
for that price order a costum made high resolution dot matrix display for the whole wall.
Some video walls are around that price.
it can't be stealing since nothing is physically being taken from them, nor are we profiting from them.
their expectation on getting our data, isn't theft since it doesn't belong to them in the first place.
it's the same vein that piracy isn't stealing because nothing is actually being taken. it's only duplicated. loss of income, or presumed income... sure, but it's not theft.
Right, what you agree to is clearly described in legal terms in the product EULA, there is no room for opinion because it is all very well defined. At least for my Roku TV, the EULA includes no kind of mandate for internet connection.