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it's true. you can't listen to music with an audiophile in the room without having to listen to them go on and on about the production and "the bass is too loud" this or "too much compression on the vocals" that-- like bro...listen to the song or GTFO
I don't know if I qualify as an audiophile or not... I like expensive headphones and high resolution audio but I'm not one of those idiots that pays $10,000 for an HDMI cable.
I listen to music to enjoy it. The only thing that really stops me enjoying it is if it sounds like shit, which 99% of the time is because it's some badly encoded lossy stream being played through a shitty Bluetooth speaker on SBC codec. That is not what music is supposed to sound like.
Give me some basic appointment that correctly reproduces what the artist created, and I'll be happy. That doesn't have to cost a fortune, you just need a lossless stream with a half decent DAC/amp into decent headphones, and you'll be blown away. Spend like $300 on a pair of non-wireless analog headphones, $50-$75 on a USB DAC, and by a subscription to Tidal or Qobuz. It'll change how you think about music. But it doesn't turn you into an asshole.
Be honest, how many audiophiles do you actually know? I work in pro AV and have been surrounded by audiophiles for 20+ years and this applies to exactly 1 person I've ever known and it was freshman year of college
Sounds like this person you're describing is just a douchebag who wants to sound smart. We'd love to tell you all about our systems but we're not gonna complain about your Walmart soundbar unprompted
My belief is most people who describe themselves as audiophiles are in the 2nd group but think they're in the 1st group
My friend is a different sort of audiophile. He finds every setup and location to be a new opportunity to hear the music he loves in a way that he's never heard it before.
I always struggle with that for equalizers. I think, I understand the concept, but no matter how much I fuck up the sliders on the equalizer, I always find it interesting more than anything else. It sounds different, sure enough, but is it better or worse? No idea.
Oooh oooh oooh! Now's my chance to say a snobby thing! "They're called faders, not sliders."
I learned this from also calling them sliders.
Also, when I get to run a camera for work, I like fucking with the AV guys by asking them to "turn down the sound dimmer, I can hear myself too loud on the headset." (The comms mixer has knobs to control this at my end.)
Your friend is one of us. A normal audiophile!
That's really cool!! I've never thought about doing that but it reminds me of this:
https://youtu.be/p8GcHoSIPDg
Does he have any samples of where he's experimented at?
Samples? No. He just listens and enjoys. And pulls out some measuring equipment, lol
Me and my dad can't watch a movie or a sports broadcast without going on about the cameras and the lenses and the angles and the framerate and the exposure etc... and it drives my mom nuts. So hi mom.
I am an audio engineer for those events, I can't watch one with out calling out bad Camera and Audio...I'm well aware of all my mistakes too.
He was a radio engineer for CBC, so that makes sense.
Do you watch F1 via Sky Sports by any chance? I've been wondering for two years what the hell is going on with Bernie Collins' audio all the time. Feels like she's been consistently sabotaged by the audio guys.
Well could you describe it or link me an example? I don't personally work with that broadcast but I can probably figure it out if I hear it
Nah, nevermind. Her audio seems to have become better this season, but I'm planning on deploying some snarky memes if it's wonky again, in hopes that Sky do something about it.
Your mom says, "Hi!"
Can you tell her we say we love her and to make sure to put on a sweater tonight? It's going to be chilly.
It's like anything else people obsess over--food, wine, cars, health, exercise, drugs, guns, etc.
The problem isn't the obsession--you do you, glad you have a hobby--the problem is they won't shut the fuck up about it, and the air of superiority. Go geek out at your audiophile conventions, which I assume is a thing. Control yourself around we normies. Or don't, I guess, and be annoying.
You do you and I'll do me and we won't do each other ... Probably.
I cannot listen to Rihanna with my good DAC/amp/headphone combo. The mixing is poop. The compression is poop. It's all i notice. I bought hi-res .flac files for Good Girl Gone Bad, and it didn't help. It was just produced poorly. So, I have to listen to her in the car with the average people stereo to enjoy it.
I hate the word. I'm an audio enjoyer. I can critique every aspect of a song and recording. But why? The song is what matters.
Ive been saying for years and I say it to clients. Motown had a damn dirt basement that flooded every year. And look how fucking good they sounded. Because they had talent and soul (well, and amazing transformers..)
Gear is fun, it doesn't matter AT ALL if there's talent.
That said, a good mix can elevate a track immensely.
But what you describe is still listening to music. The things they pick on is still part of the audio track, not part of the audio equipment.
Yeah it's just stuff someone thinks about when they've refined their taste over "bass goes boom". It can still be annoying when they try to force their opinions down on you when you haven't even asked.
Well, but it's not about the music itself (like what it means to you, how it makes you feel etc.) - it's like talking about a picture and focusing on what kind of brushes were used. Valid and interesting to a degree, but not what art is about. It's impossible without techne (practical stuff) but transcends it.
Or whatever.
Yeah, that would be when they tell you that your speaker cables are not danceable.