this post was submitted on 30 Mar 2026
42 points (100.0% liked)
Games
21273 readers
119 users here now
Tabletop, DnD, board games, and minecraft. Also Animal Crossing.
Rules
- No racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, or transphobia. Don't care if it's ironic don't post comments or content like that here.
- Mark spoilers
- No bad mouthing sonic games here :no-copyright:
- No gamers allowed :soviet-huff:
- No squabbling or petty arguments here. Remember to disengage and respect others choice to do so when an argument gets too much
- Anti-Edelgard von Hresvelg trolling will result in an immediate ban from c/games and submitted to the site administrators for review. :silly-liberator:
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
honestly I was penning a defense of this on "this work fundamentally relies on specific presentation and double meanings" grounds but I realized midway through typing it that it's a very silly problem because the solution to this is:
the second, more PR-centric solution to this flare-up (aka, if your art brain still freaks out at the first option) is to toss money at the fans who localized your game for free, like "Sorry, I'm really really really not comfortable releasing my art in languages I can't understand, it's a personal creative neurosis. I really appreciate what you are doing, I just cannot officially rubber-stamp a translation, but here's some funds roughly-derived from the steam sales in LatAm countries you helped bring my game to. Thank you." It will, to adopt a cynical outlook, immediately create backlash to the backlash and temper future reactions. Crisis averted, people don't attribute your creative neuroses to racism. Just be sure to also be like "no, don't harass them please, it's highkey my bad and I wanted to make amends because I was being stubborn, it makes me feel worse if you take this out on them" if you want to at least somewhat avert the rabid counterswing of anglophone fans that is the price of this option.
I think it's a bit silly on both sides, it's not like unofficial fan translations are an invalid way of playing a game (e.g. playing Mother 3 in English), but it’s more silly on Toby's side because it's not a binary choice and you can take steps to preserve your integrity to the best of your ability while broadcasting I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE WORDS HERE THIS IS NOT EXACTLY CANON. I can empathize with his reservations as someone who has her own creative-control neuroses, but you have to recognize that it’s going to rub people the wrong way if you refuse to support their language.
Toby fox trade offer:
Toby fox loses: being able to translate his dozens of anagrams perfectly, having slightly awkward dialogue, maybe a translation gaffe that has to be patched out later that becomes a funny fandom in-joke.
Toby fox gains: having an entire continent and then some be able to enjoy his work without being subjected to Japanese and american cultural imperialism.
Oh, his work in based on wordplay and double meanings?
Wait until bro learns about French plays.