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Ive been thinking of going caffeine and alcohol free for a while. Alcohol wouldnt be an issue but I really love coffee.

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Leave it at that.

"I want to be ignorant of any possible downsides in my addiction! >:( I don't want to hear 'science' about it, I listen to my feelings."

Especially when

FWIW I think energy drinks suck, they absolutely can cause harm.

That's like someone dissing vaping while reeking of old tobacco. Rofl.

We could go on rant about excess anything, like oxygen or water,

"Sola dosis facit venenum" pffft. No, we really can't in the same way. Water isn't toxic in any amounts. Dehydration through hyponatremia is a thing called water toxicity, but it's not aptly named, as you need distilled water and can't have any salt, otherwise the water won't be "toxic". Also, you can breathe 100% oxygen and be completely fine.

Caffeine LD50 values are honestly rather low. Not as low as alcohol, but still, pretty low. And the amount it takes for harmful effects to show up is literally on the same level as an average to high daily caffeine user.

So no, your substance use isn't the same as drinking water and breathing. All substance use has inherent risks, no matter how small. Yes, even caffeine and cannabis. What is ridiculous to me is that the same folk who literally can't manage without a daily dose of their chosen substance without physical withdrawal (>70% caffeine users get headaches if they stop) and think there's no harm in it, are the same people who think cannabis causes psychosis.

Stimulant psychosis is much more likely. Just like is psychosis brought on by alcohol.

excess caffeine and other stimulants are not comparable to what would be considered normal consumption

Ignorant. Just so ignorant.

Like any addict you're rationalising your addiction. But unlike many addicts, you're at the same time also judging others for the same addiction you have and making up "facts" you feel are right.

Regular, excessive coffee consumption (typically >4 cups/day or >400-600mg caffeine) can cause negative effects including, insomnia, jitters, anxiety, and heart palpitations. It may cause digestive distress (acid reflux, diarrhea), increased blood pressure, addiction, and potential bone density issues. Regular use often leads to tolerance, requiring more coffee to achieve the same effect

https://www.medparkhospital.com/en-US/lifestyles/coffee#d

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

You’ve got too much free time on your hands.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Why is it always "lol do you think I'm reading all that" or an equivalent reply where you're trying to mock a user on a forum for.... using the forum.

And it's never to do with the length (writing that took less time than smoking a cigarette, which I used to do years ago), but the content. You're a bit ashamed that your take is so objectively biased due to your addiction.

"Coffee! Aaah, black as night and sweet as hell mmmm. Great, healthy, amazing!"

"A carbonated sugar-free drink with less caffeine? Poison!"

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 0 points 19 hours ago

I don’t need to reply to a WoT that completely ignored the substance and intent of my reply. You’re wasting our time. I don’t see any reason to reply when you’re making up everything you think I would say, with a massive sprinkling of hyperbole, just fine on your own. You don’t need me to join the conversation you’re having in your head.