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Trump says he’ll have the ‘honor of taking Cuba’ and can do ‘anything I want with it’
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That a sleazy criminal crook like Trump got elected and that he gets away with doing what he does is 100% the fault of the American system, the American elites and the American people.
No amount of foreign interference would be able to even wobble this building if it wasn't already rotten from the inside down to its foundations.
Trump is a symptom, not a cause, and if it wasn't him, it would sooner or later be somebody else like him.
So please stop parroting the Neoliberal version of the "blame the foreigners" self-excusing nationalist propaganda that deflects from the 100% local people who are most to blame for what's happenning, the deserved punishment for their actions at the hands of the common citizens - this shit would never have happenned without decades of pillaging by insiders, subversion of the guardians of Democracy like Courts and the Press, widespread ridiculous amounts of Nationalism switching of people's critical thinking about their country and the purposeful stupidification of the populace.
Next to the sleazy greedy assholes and a culture normalizing and even applauding sleaze and greed in America, the impact of even the most influencial of foreign states - Israel - is tiny.
The local people are to blame, but they've been influenced by decades of foreign-backed media/ propaganda and ideologues. Yes, some of it is due to the selfishness and greed of American culture - at every level - but the collapse is due to a confluence of multiple factors. And a non-trivial factor has been the influence of foreign propaganda and henchmen (it's not just Donald Trump that is beholden to Russia/ Israel).
Go check who owns most of the Press in America - it ain't foreigners.
Go check who owns most of the Social Media in America - it ain't foreigners.
The rot not only predates Social Media, but the very Social Media that accelerated it is American-owned.
I'm sorry but you're just being a useful idiot when you parrot the very deflection propaganda of the local power elites that I mentioned in my last post.
Agree that the problems predate social media. Also agree with your assessment of the courts and insider palm greasing. To the dumbing down of the populace: there has always been an undercurrent of conservative white people trying to maintain the county's wealth and power for themselves.
But this:
Was made infinitely worse by the media environment post-9/11. Since at least 2005, it has been apparent that there was an intentional effort to sell conflicting versions of events to the people so that they could not discern what was true. Yes, all of the American media at the time contributed to the garbage decision to go into Iraq. Initially though, the worst of the confusion of facts was largely driven by Rupert Murdoch-owned Fox News. All of the Internet has greatly exacerbated this since then, and it has been asymptotic post-2020.
Yes, American culture has (always?) been narcissistic and obnoxiously self-aggrandizing. But America had been a gigantic population of wealthy consumers for decades. So it draws all the avaristic psychopaths from around the world like moths to a flame. Are the local people to blame for the machinations of Rupert Murdoch, Peter Thiel, and Elon Musk? Saudi Arabian and Russian wealth underwrote Musk's acquisition of Twitter, even if you count him as one of "the local people". To the headless beast that is social media now, you have Russia contributing millions of dollars via Tenet Media in the 2024 campaign.
Obviously there are plenty of American bad actors in this stew of billionaire-owned manipulative media, but most of them act with an agenda that does not involve ripping the country apart.
What I'm talking about here is the massive social, political and economic trends of the life-cycle of an Empire.
So keep on Zooming Back your perspective.
Here is an historic graphic of Social Mobility in the US.
Here is the Gini Coeficient that measures inequality (the higher the more unequal), which actually understates the reality because it's not that great at reflecting internal inequality in the top quintile (i.e. things like how the top 1% are now way much richer than the top 10% than before).
So all the way back in the 1970s, America started changing from the "Land Of Opportunity" were "everybody has a chance" as shown by it's massive social mobility back then to the equivalent of a feudal system - a zero-merit environment where the rich are rich because their parents were rich and those born into poverty are unable to rise up from poverty - AND on top of that the richer were getting richer and the rest were getting poorer.
For most of the population that meant more povert and less opportunity hence less hope. From that you get more discontent.
So, how do the elites pillaging a society deal with such increase in discontent due to the activities of said elites?
Deceive the masses (for example: more and more lying in Politics, Press capture and subversion into a Propaganda machine and in present day psychological manipulation via Social Media), increase oppression (for example: ever more murderous policing, criminalization of "no victim" activities and harsher punishements) and in the case of a Democracy subvert the systems by which the citizens chose who will manage the nation (for example: political corruption, Gerrymandering, taking the vote away from felons - which typically hail from the poor - and, specifically in the barelly-Democratic US system, internal capture of the two parties in the duopoly of power that rules the country as illustrated by how the DNC gave the nomination to Hillary Clinton some years ago).
So the entire system was pillaged by local elites and then when the discontent caused by that pillaging grew, it was corrupted by those very same elites to redirect or suppress the consequences for those elites.
Foreign interference in present day America, is like maggots in a zombie - they're not what made it a zombie and there would be no maggots in it if had not already been turned into a zombie.