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    [–] mossberg590@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    Real sys admins know this pain (rm suffers no fools) and accept the consequences of recovering from backups as pennance. No backups? Then you aren't really a sys admin then, are you?

    [–] AspieEgg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

    Once I had to restore an entire organization from shadow copies because the IT director didn’t believe in off-site backups or using endpoint protection. The whole network got a ransomware that included the backups, but did not include the shadow copies on the main file server.

    At least I got to help them build a disaster recovery procedure, and pick out a new EDR.

    [–] stoly@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Are shadow copies like snapshots?

    [–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

    Yes, they are essentially file snapshots. Shadow copies in a Microsoft environment at least are basically file history without using file history. So when you modify a file when it's enabled, it makes a copy of the last version of the file.

    But since it's not meant to be a actual backup solution, it's meant to be on a file-by-file basis. I think that means they had to go through and manual restore n a file by file basis

    [–] AspieEgg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    If I remember correctly, we were able to restore folders from the shadow copies. I certainly didn’t go file by file. I might have used a tool to do it. But as you pointed out, it’s not a proper backup so we had to do quite a bit of reconciliation to make sure we restored everything and document anything we couldn’t restore.

    [–] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

    That sounds unpleasant. I’ve been through similar myself.

    [–] stoly@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

    So it was long, manual, and painful. That sounds horrid.

    [–] AspieEgg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Yeah, shadow copies on Windows servers are snapshots of files. They allow users to see previous versions of a file.

    It’s not really intended as a backup solution on its own, but some backup software does use the volume shadow copy service (VSS) to perform backups on Windows servers.

    I was basically restoring files from this prompt in Windows.

    [–] Jaybird@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] AspieEgg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago

    Actually yes. The attack actually happened during the first week of the new director being there.

    No, there is no indication that the old director had anything to do with it.

    [–] bryndos@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago

    You're sys gamblin'

    Next time I'm about to criticize the judgement of a video game boss for having an exposed weak point with a neon orange glow, I'll think about a sysadmin with no backups. Stupidity adds realism.

    [–] undefinedTruth@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    The best part is when you do something like rm path/to/dir/* and after pressing enter you notice there is actually space before the *.

    [–] ch00f@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

    And you realize that it’s taking a while to delete that small handful of files.

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago