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Can anyone recommend some IDEs that don't use AI, not owned by awful corporations, and preferably no online features at all? Of course I am aware of vim, neovim, etc. but ideally I'm looking for a gentler entry from other popular IDEs.

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[–] clif@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Helix was mentioned in a few posts but no link so here : https://helix-editor.com/

If you love the terminal, it's fantastic. I like it better than NeoVIM but, admittedly, I didn't spend a lot of time trying to get to know nvim. It's much better than VIM for code because it was built for that, not "just" a text editor that got forced into IDE service. (Not to denigrate VI/VIM, I love them, but Helix is more powerful for dev related tasks). If you hate the terminal... keep moving, nothing to see here.


For a more common IDE (not terminal), I've been using Theia for the past 6 months or so : https://theia-ide.org/ If you click that link you'll see "AI" vomited into everything, for example the first two sentences :

The Theia IDE is a modern, AI-native IDE for cloud and desktop built on the Theia Platform. The Theia Platform is a framework for building custom, AI-native tools & IDEs.

From what I've seen, there's no AI integration in the base and it's only added via extensions. It is extremely similar to VS Code but is not a fork. Now... whether or not it was ""developed with AI"", I don't know. I kind of got the feeling that they sprayed "AI" all over the website to try to cash in on the hype and get new users.

Even if that's the case (chasing the hype train, no actual LLM inside), that's likely to be a major turn off for you which I fully understand.