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I don't get why we would want to stop doing it? You lose a single hour on one night of the year, and in exchange you get more sunlight for the entire winter. Like ???
From what I understand, traffic collisions dramatically increase whenever there's a time change. Any benefit that we ever got from having Daylight Savings Time died out around 70 years ago, so what's the point in continuing something that no longer benefits us and is proven to be a safety issue to the general population? That we're even debating this in 2026 really confuses me.
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You brought it up. Just look at the chart. Getting rid of Daylight Savings just makes things worse. With our current system, we get sunrises at a reasonable time and sunsets at a reasonable time. It's not a positive change.
Who fucking cares? Get blackout curtains if that matters.
I personally have the opposite problem during DST. Because sunset ends up being 11pm or later where I live from DST, I can't fall asleep until Midnight or later. This is because light blocks the production of melatonin in the body. To fix the problem, I would have to set up blackout curtains all through my house (instead of just my bedroom) and close them all at 9pm just so I can go to bed at 10pm.
Also, removing DST gets rid of the stupid time change without increasing the risk of kids getting run over while walking to school, which is what we'd get if DST was year round.
It seems fine to me. What’s the problem?
almost nobody is up at 4-5 AM, and almost everybody wants to stay out from 7-9 PM in the summer. it's just worse.
About 8 hours before noon, and about 8 hours after. That’s… as it should be.
So your argument is "Oh, the math is pretty, so we should make our actual daily schedule worse" ???
This has zero impact on our daily schedule except for the numbers we assign to them.
You think losing 2-3 hours of sunlight would make "zero impact"? I don't. And yes, if it's sunny when you're asleep, and dark when you're awake, you lost the sunlight.
To take your example:
Without daylight-saving time it’s exactly the same except the numbers: “nobody is up at 5-6 AM and everybody wants to stay out from 8-10 PM in the summer”
why yes, that is the point, more sunlight is better! which is why less sunlight is worse, and we shouldn't switch to less sunlight. <3
That’s not more sunlight though! The numbers changed without making any difference.
The only thing that changes when daylight-saving goes into effect is that we suddenly decide to get up at 6 am but call it 7 am for some reason.
If you want more sunlight get up earlier, don’t change the clocks!
It did make a difference. The sun set earlier, meaning an extra hour or 2 of your life is in darkness, when it doesn't have to be.
You're correct, we could accomplish the exact same system by changing work times instead of changing the clocks. But that would result in the exact same "traffic issues", "confusion", while also mess up payroll and requiring every business and government website to update its charts. The only difference between "Move the clocks back" and "Everyone change their work schedule an hour earlier" is the amount of paperwork.
Or just, y’know, not bother with fucking up everyone else’s lives.
It didn't. You just go up earlier and pretended.
Is that chart hosted anywhere else?
There are some indications that those one hour switches can be dangerous because of the impact in those two days. I’m not saying it is clear, but there is impact. Both because the driving conditions improve with respect to lighting, but conversely because driver alertness is lower due to sleep troubles for the time change.
Personally I’ve never really bought the whole “more sunlight” thing. We get precisely the same amount. Of course, you mean during business hours but I just don’t feel that is very relevant to a broader society with more diverse schedules.
But that's not how time works... You don't ever get more sunlight, timeshifts just shift by an hour when that time is. Your 4pm sunset in the winter will now be 5pm. You're not getting evening sun with a time shift. Similarly without the shift summer sunsets are well past 7pm during the summer. (I might have the winter times backwards.)