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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody has ever developed a rocket in the open like this before

dude, please read up on the space race. we have designed rockets in the open before. they blew up far less frequently.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

None of that was like what SpaceX is doing.

There were failures in the race and they were testing things, but failures weren't the expected outcomes and part of the planned development cycle. Like they still don't even know how to make a reusable heat shield which is fundamental to this working.

SpaceX has built a manufacturing line to churn these things out and is like we think this might work, let's try it in flight hardware. Oh okay that didnt work, let's try something else. Oh okay that did work now, but if we do this does it still work because if it does we can eek out 2% more performance. Oh shit now we have a brand new mark 2 engine. Does it sill work? Let's make it longer now with more fuel and new tanks!

Starships blowing up is part of how they are iterating. No one else has done it this way, or so publicly.

The government cant handle things like this because people like you look at it as a failure and shit gets shut down. If they IPO its also going to cause issues for the same reason.

Meanwhile SpaceX has designed, built, flew and landed two orbital boosters before anyone landed one. They fucking caught it in chopsticks.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

And yet they still can't do shit we could do 60 years ago

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world -4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Like deliver 100 tonnes to the moons surface in a single ship?

What do you think they're failing at so badly compared to 60 years ago.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm tired and don't have the name of the specific parts in my head right now and don't feel like looking them up. Shit we used to be able to make that is essential to manned spaceflight, that since we decided to get rid of the space shuttle now no longer gets made by anyone. no company nor person has the expertise to simply follow the patents. That's what trade secrets are for. In short, the supply chain broke and it has not been fixed.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Well, if my google search is right, they've already done 15 crewed flights (there/back so 30) with the longest duration in the capsule being over 3 days, and there are people on the ISS, so whatever it is, isn't needed for any of that manned spaceflight which makes me think its just something that allows for an extended trip, and having a bigger ship, opens the possibilities of other solutions.

For example, they can just take a less complicated but larger CO2 scrubber and/or more oxygen instead of having to use a super complicated one with a material we maybe can't re-create due to space/weight constraints. They'll have 100 tonnes to work with. 1 tonne of oxygen would last a small crew for years. Also that 100 tonnes ~~might~~ probably be after life support systems if they're talking about delivering 100t to surface.

I'm tired as well, I'm going to head off to bed.