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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Imagine if they focused on creating tools that could jailbreak iOS devices, John Deere tractors, HP printers, etc. I bet they could sell that as a service. What could the US or American companies do to stop them? They could be Disenshittification Island.

[–] yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am personally betting a lot that this is where it's going (career development-wise, not prediction markets, ugh)

US tech has been absolutely awful and stagnating for awhile. It's one thing to continue to deal with it when it's actually offering good value, but it's not. Between the data sovereignty concerns and tariffs, the EU is positioned to jolt its own tech market if it's ready to take the opportunity, and I think they are.

I'm not sure I'd expect anything big or grand, much like the "year of the Linux desktop" I don't know that there will really be a breaking moment. Just slow building of momentum in that direction. And that's all it really takes, once that momentum takes hold it's not going to start flowing back to Microsoft. These greedy corporations overplayed their hand, they broke the agreements, and now there's really no going back.

So I hope ...

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If anything, I expect the EU to try and keep anti-circumvention laws to benefit its own tech industry.

The neat thing about Doctorow's proposal, though, is that at this point anyone could do it. Canada, India, Brazil... with tariffs already in play, there's not really much to lose.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That's his argument, but I don't really buy it.

For example, what would Hollywood do if Canada suddenly stopped respecting copyright? (I know we're talking about the anti-circumvention provision of the DMCA, but the C in DMCA is "Copyright", so this would definitely be framed as Canada not respecting copyrights.) A lot of movies and TV shows are now made in Canada. I imagine a lot of those companies would pull their productions out of Canada. So, whichever politician passed the law would be labelled as the one who killed Canada's entertainment industry.

If Canada allowed jailbreaking John Deere tractors, or HP printers, they might stop selling them in Canada. If Canada allowed people to bypass Apple's App Store, Apple might ban all apps from Canadians and Canadian companies. That might piss off farmers, or CTOs, venture capitalists, etc.

Taking this step might create a lot of new jobs, but that's a big unknown. How many jobs? How well paying? How long would it take for them to be established. They'd have to weigh that against all the people whose jobs might be disrupted. So, it's much easier to stick with the status quo, even if that status quo means just bending over for the US.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

I don't think any these companies would stomach a cut in sales. They'd definitely try and fight any change in the courts.

[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have considered that possibility, yeah. I'm not an expert by far, but it seems less likely.

Breaking from the US is going to cause an initial upheaval to the tech industry that the EU won't be able to just immediately assert new anti-circumvention on while they are in the active process of a smash and grab. It's going to take at least some amount of time for them to re-establish that on their terms during which people will become a lot better familiarized and practiced at what all this jailbreaking is going to look like.

People can resist during that time and while I don't necessarily delude myself into thinking that'll be super effective, it will also require legal coordination and brand new anti-circumvention tech. Could still be wishful thinking, but I don't assume it's just a done deal.

If there are broken up markets with anti-circumvention, then more attractive players will appear to compete without it.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except that no country is likely to take him up on that suggestion because they're afraid of how the US would react. Cuba's already heavily sanctioned, so they have less to lose. Maybe nothing to lose.

Can't sanction everyone. How many Navy ships are there?

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)
[–] yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Jesus Christ. How many times have the USA done something like this? And how many times are they currently doing something like this?

[–] shane@feddit.nl 7 points 1 day ago

The US already invaded Cuba, so...

[–] yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Wen speaking about copyright and how the USA is abusing its power, this is worth watching

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What could the US or American companies do to stop them?

The empire is literally bombing and starving the planet for the sake of capitalism and its MIC.

They're already murdering cubans for nothing.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

Exactly, so this wouldn't make things any worse.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Insert an NSA agent to put in backdoors, so they can track every user. Then lawsuits.

[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

On the American customers, for DMCA violation.