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I think this needs to be called out much more. IT, by its very nature is meant to consist of repeatable, verifiable processes and outputs. That is how a lot of the trust around the process is built.
Now you’re basically trying to tell people: Trust a system that can only reproduce the same results 98-99% of the time. For some that may be fine, but it’s going to become more of a problem as time goes on.
LLM outputs are 100% deterministic.
If you enter the same prompt with the same seed you will get the same vector outputs.
Chatbots take those vector outputs and treat them as a distribution and select a random token. This isn't a property of the LLMs, it's a property of chatbots.
If they aren’t selling non-chatbot LLMs then that’s irrelevant.
The entire comment chain is about LLMs, not chatbots.
A LLM's output is deterministic.
A from an IT system point of view, a system using LLMs is only non-deterministic if the system adds randomness. The randomness isn't inherent to the LLM and any added randomness is typically created by a seed which could be replicated across number of system images leading to deterministic output across every image clone.
From the point of view of the typical user the computer may as well be a magical box controlled by a tiny fairy so any talk of deterministic output is irrelevant.
The post is about the actual product they’re selling, not whatever idealized idea of what a ‘proper’ LLM is.
If every LLM sold is sold as a chatbot, then this “ummm ackchully” is irrelevant. It doesn’t matter what LLMs are technically capable of if none of the LLMs sold actually function that way.