Personally I've been drinking absurd amounts of coffee. Obviously it's not as potent as most other things but once you make it past cup 3 or 4 your heart starts racing and you sweat a lot and become very anxious (in my personal experience). What more could you want from a stimulant

[–] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

I drink a lot too, and tea, I probably went through 30 tea bags yesterday, but that's more than normal, 10 today already.

But caffeine isn't really a stimulant in the same way, it inhibits the endogenous drug that makes you sleepy, adeninose or something like that, while the speed drugs will actually jack up your epinephrine (and dopamine and seratonin if they are the better ones,) and norepinephrine and the like. And I forget all the mechanisms, it's all on feedback loops one endogenous drug affects another on feedback loops. Like Cocaine does the dopamine, the opiate the body makes endogenously, the main one at least, and then kicks in epiniphrine and norepinephrine, as I recall. So the 20 minutes of euphoria from doing coke is from that dopamine.

I quit kratom and nicotene. I have a lot of weed, and brew my own alcohol, but need something to get me going on projects, and to keep concentration, and actual stimulants are great for that. People with adhd swear by adderol and ritulin, low grade amphetamines and something similar in action. They do improve concentration and not getting distracted, improve motor coordination, response time, etc in reasonable quantities.

Like if you wanted to write a work, having some safe amphetamines would be a great tool to have, if you used them responsibly. And I believe in our right to use drugs as we see fit. But plants are often the only ones not proscribed completely.

[–] Castor_Troy@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

It gets psychedelic and even sometimes visual for me at higher doses.