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[–] jjagaimo@sh.itjust.works 38 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

Cars don't explode like in movies

It's also a huge vulnerability that modern cars have internet connections and could easily trigger the immobilizer or drive it into a wall

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

There are only a handful of models that use a drive-by-wire system where an electronic attack would let you do something like that (Teslas and some models of Humvee are the only ones I know right off) - pretty much everything else still uses supplementary physical connections to prevent loss of control during a hardware failure. Loss of steering assist or activation of an immobilizer will cause your engine to shut down and your controls to be less responsive, but it does not cause you to lose control of a car and both have a long enough purely mechanical delay to allow you to safely stop the vehicle.

There's no way for a remote attacker to "drive your car into the wall" unless you're using one of those very rare models. Even cars with lane assist are designed so that -mechanically- they cannot override user input.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 minutes ago* (last edited 19 minutes ago)

a handful of models

I'm not saying they did him in because that's just a conspiracy theory, but your claim is a touch outdated.

Anything that has lane assist or parking assist, on any model has buss managed controls.

Manufacturer,Model,Type of Auto Control
Tesla,Model 3,Autopilot / Full Self Driving
Tesla,Model Y,Autopilot / Full Self Driving
Tesla,Model S,Autopilot / Full Self Driving
Tesla,Model X,Autopilot / Full Self Driving
Ford,Mustang Mach-E,BlueCruise
Ford,F-150,BlueCruise
Ford,Expedition,BlueCruise
Ford,Escape,Lane Keeping Assist
GM,Cadillac CT4,Super Cruise
GM,Cadillac CT5,Super Cruise
GM,Cadillac Escalade,Super Cruise
GM,Chevy Silverado,Super Cruise
GM,GMC Sierra,Super Cruise
Hyundai,Ioniq 5,Highway Driving Assist
Hyundai,Ioniq 6,Highway Driving Assist
Hyundai,Santa Fe,Remote Smart Parking Assist
Hyundai,Palisade,Remote Smart Parking Assist
Kia,EV6,Highway Driving Assist
Kia,EV9,Remote Smart Parking Assist 2
Kia,Sportage,Lane Keeping Assist
Kia,Telluride,Highway Driving Assist
Toyota,Camry,Toyota Safety Sense Lane Keeping
Toyota,Corolla,Toyota Safety Sense Lane Keeping
Toyota,RAV4,Toyota Safety Sense Lane Keeping
Toyota,Highlander,Toyota Safety Sense Lane Keeping
Honda,Accord,Honda Sensing Lane Keeping
Honda,Civic,Honda Sensing Lane Keeping
Honda,CR-V,Honda Sensing Lane Keeping
Honda,Pilot,Honda Sensing Lane Keeping
Nissan,Ariya,ProPILOT Assist and ProPILOT Park
Nissan,Rogue,ProPILOT Assist
Nissan,Leaf,ProPILOT Assist
Mercedes-Benz,S-Class,Drive Pilot
Mercedes-Benz,EQS,Drive Pilot / Active Steering Assist
Mercedes-Benz,E-Class,Active Steering Assist
BMW,5 Series,Driving Assistant Professional
BMW,7 Series,Parking Assistant Professional
BMW,iX,Highway Assist
Audi,A6,Lane Assist
Audi,A8,Parking Assist Plus
Audi,Q7,Lane Centering and Parking Assist
Volkswagen,ID.4,Travel Assist
Volkswagen,Tiguan,Lane Assist
Volkswagen,Atlas,Lane Assist
Subaru,Outback,EyeSight Lane Centering
Subaru,Forester,EyeSight Lane Centering
Subaru,Crosstrek,EyeSight Lane Centering
Volvo,XC90,Pilot Assist
Volvo,XC60,Pilot Assist
Polestar,Polestar 2,Pilot Assist
Lexus,RX,Lexus Safety System Plus Lane Centering
Lexus,NX,Lexus Safety System Plus Lane Centering
Lexus,ES,Lexus Safety System Plus Lane Centering
Rivian,R1T,Driver Plus
Rivian,R1S,Driver Plus
Lucid,Air,DreamDrive

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 1 points 31 minutes ago

How new is modern? Off the top of my head I remember a bunch of models affected by the Jeep crystler dodge head unit to can bus hack. I'd be suprised if KIA hadn't fucked it up. And remember, you don't need steering, you just control of the throttle, maybe the brakes or traction control.

I don't think ICE killed this guy(unless he was driving a Tesla then maybe). But the CIA and Mossad like to kill people this way

[–] jjagaimo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Seeing this coincidentally. I may be wrong about the immobilizer but even having one aspect of the car fail could cause issues if the person isnt expecting it, especially if they are already speeding. Also theres no saying if there could have been physical sabotage to the car or that he was driving something with issues like a recent honda (steering rack issues that cause them to lock up)

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

If you're defending the idea this was him being killed by ICE - while I personally doubt it was (why would ICE care enough to do this elaborate conspiracy BS that almost failed when they could just, you know, shoot him) - that's not really needed here, I'm not trying to make a case either way. I'm just pointing out that "hacking a car" can't, outside of a handful of models, be used by a hacker as an automatic crash button. Even that example you linked to at worst just disabled the engine or the electronic brakes, which wouldn't inherently cause someone to lose control of a car outside of those very few models (idk if you've ever had an engine die while you're driving, but it really isnt a big deal to manage).

Pretty much all modern cars cannot be forced to crash by a hacker - maybe, if they're lurking and waiting until you're speeding and then disable systems right as you're turning it could increase the chance of you crashing, but modern cars are also extremely safe in an accident. Even in a tremendously bad incident like the above, everyone survived the impact - he only died because of the resulting fire. And again, ~~he wasn't the one driving, so his position in the car wouldn't have been predictable...~~ sorry, he wasn't the owner of the car. this just doesn't add up.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 20 points 17 hours ago

That begs the question: what were they driving?

[–] scaredoftrumpwinning@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I thought Tesla's were a little bit on the explody side of things.

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

The victim had a loving family with him, so it couldn't have been a Tesla

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 19 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Firey, yes. Explodey? Not so much from what I've seen.

[–] PenguinMage@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah I think the issue is the fiery and all electric means you're locked inside with the fire...

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

At least the fire can't escape.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 4 points 7 hours ago

"I'm not locked in here with the fire... the fire is locked in here with ME."

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

I wasn't trying to imply that the nazimobiles were safe. Just that they are mostly dangerous to the Nazi supporters that buy them.