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I think blaming CHUD fascism on poor education is just cope (hexbear.net)

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Most CHUDs didn't go to underfunded intercity schools with moldy textbooks. They went to well funded suburban middle class schools which, yeah are still US public schools, but still provide better educational opportunities than what most people in the world have.

CHUD aren't fascists because their social studies teacher was underpaid, they're fascists because fascism speaks to them and their values. They are fascists at the end of the day because they like being fascists.

And further more, unless you embrace full hard determinism, you have to view these people as culpable to some extend for the awful politics they support. Yeah, none are immune to propaganda, we are shaped by are culture yadda yadda. But I have to think humans have some capacity of will to rise above their social conditioning, if they're willing didn't society would never evolve or change for the better.

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[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

No they weren't. Why would you think this?

If you are a toddler your exposure to the internet is Ms. Rachel and other baby shows. I don't think humans are learning to be mean from that, but yeah parents are a big part of it.

It's just really frustrating and I think wrong to boil this all down to material conditions. Life experience showed me that people have held wildly different views despite having the same class position. There are people on Medicaid who hate "hand outs". Giving that person a more stable prosperous life isn't going to make those thoughts go away!

What I meant by invoking Mao is that we need a similar "cultural revolution" here like what happened in China. Some people just have to be eliminated. I understand why "authoritarian" measures are needed and I embrace that now. I'm not one of those naive liberals who think we can "unite".

I ultimately want to finish reconstruction, end the slave owner bloodlines and give industry to former slaves. Give the means of production to people who actually deserve them.

I don't care how dialectical that is because I don't believe the fully dogmatic ML line works in the US. We need something different. I don't care if the US splits and the South becomes a pariah, I just know I hate these people and their culture, their values, and their upbringing so much. They have turned me into a mess and ruined my mental health where I have a small pill cocktail to not completely lose my head. It's tough dealing with daily life.

Yes, there's some nice people down here but in general I am cautious around white people especially the older ones.

I would like to understand how to manipulate parenting and this culture to turn it away from the old testament bigotry and towards some sort of empathy, but it feels like everyone has gone in the opposite direction.