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Proton VPN/mail. It's often recommended as being safe, but I'm not so sure.

It has servers in Israel. Ties to Israel are never a good thing. Palantir, Epstein, etc are tied to Israel, and Israel also is known for its surveillance. It is also true that it's completely legal there for them to access and monitor any and all information that passes through VPNs or networks there.

I'm looking for a safe alternative that's privacy-conscious and isn't linked to Israel. Both mail and vpn (it's fine if they're separate). Please let me know if you guys know.

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[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Proton has servers in 127 countries, including Cuba, Russia, Venezuela... do they all count as ties?

[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You're here comparing Venezuela and Cuba to nazis, get out you pig

[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I’m here saying Proton has servers in 127 countries and they are widely different, so how do you decide to which ones they are "tied" (protip: They are tied to none, getting an exit node in a country benefit users from the countries next to it, and it also opens that country's geolocked content to the world). Get a brain.

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes, but afaik they are not nazis nor are involved in the kind of genocidal actions israel is

[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Proton has servers in both Russia and Ukraine, and neither means Proton has ties with their governments. If you want to expand an Israel boycott to anyone doing business with any company from Israel then ok, but the word "ties" seems to imply some involvement or complicity with a government/regime/ideology, like they are connected to anything said place is doing.