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Proton has ties to Israel. What's a safe alternative? (lemmy.world)

submitted 11 hours ago by Yliaster@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Proton VPN/mail. It's often recommended as being safe, but I'm not so sure.

It has servers in Israel. Ties to Israel are never a good thing. Palantir, Epstein, etc are tied to Israel, and Israel also is known for its surveillance. It is also true that it's completely legal there for them to access and monitor any and all information that passes through VPNs or networks there.

I'm looking for a safe alternative that's privacy-conscious and isn't linked to Israel. Both mail and vpn (it's fine if they're separate). Please let me know if you guys know.

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[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

In one case you have a company tied to a nazi regime, in the other case you have a company tied to a nazi regime. Hope this helps

[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Proton has servers in 127 countries, including Cuba, Russia, Venezuela... do they all count as ties?

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, but afaik they are not nazis nor are involved in the kind of genocidal actions israel is

[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Proton has servers in both Russia and Ukraine, and neither means Proton has ties with their governments. If you want to expand an Israel boycott to anyone doing business with any company from Israel then ok, but the word "ties" seems to imply some involvement or complicity with a government/regime/ideology, like they are connected to anything said place is doing.