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[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 14 points 16 hours ago (6 children)

So seriously, what's going to replace Discord? Everyone wants to leave, but to where?

And no, Matrix is not and will never be a viable alternative

[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago

There's Stoat (formerly Revolt) and Fluxer. Additionally, Steam has many Discord-like features in app.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

The problem isn't that there are no alternatives. It's that there's like 50 alternatives. Centralization makes us vulnerable, but it's also super convenient.

There's a reason we preferred reddit and now Lemmy instead of different forums with different logins for everything.

The biggest problem with getting off Discord is fragmentation of communities.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Reddit can't die fast enough. I miss niche subreddits

[–] kurcatovium@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

First one of those contenders that solves federation in a nice way would be a winner. Quite a lot of them has it on their roadmap so my hopes are not completely lost.

[–] not_pretty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I could probably just google this... but I think I just want to hear a real person explain something this time :P

What do you mean by "solves federation"? As in bringing disparate groups together under a single app?

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 47 minutes ago

My, probably very bad, understanding would be something along the lines of a shared, decentralized API. Almost like a specialized internet that only serves the functions of the apps.

[–] kurcatovium@piefed.social 2 points 2 hours ago

bringing disparate groups together under a single app

Yep, that's pretty much how I'd like to see it done. Similar to lemmy/piefed, where I can reply to your comment from different server. E.g. Fluxer have something like this in their roadmap, fingers crossed.

[–] sadie_sorceress@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Slack seems cool to me and my friends, is it not cool to other people?

[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 2 points 47 minutes ago

Slack is a subscription per user so far as I know

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 5 points 3 hours ago

It's owned by Salesforce. Big ick.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Slack is the polar opposite of cool.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 48 minutes ago

Might as well go with Microsoft Teams at that point

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] sadie_sorceress@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

My group left about 5 years ago (give or take a couple) when there was a hostile takeover of freenode. I haven't really looked into it at all since then, is freenode back or where did everyone move to?

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago

Everyone moved to libera. It literally happened right as the freenode fiasco happened, so I am surprised you and your group didn't hear about it.

[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Matrix is not

With LiveKit for calls / screen share, it is for my group. Though I'm not saying it doesn't have issues.

will never be

Community-developed homeservers like continuwuity have gotten a lot of new support on the last few weeks. Clients like cinny are getting pretty close to a replacement ux wise (if you look at PR2599 on Cinny's GitHub, they are working on and will soon merge support for LiveKit in a way that is very close to voice channels).

I also generally think that the only way to replace Discord as an ecosystem where you talk to many people from different communities is a federated protocol, not a bunch of new silos, one for each community.

[–] kurcatovium@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I have no first person experience but I've read Matrix' lack of "Discord-like server" grouping is terrible for moderation where you have to manually set permissions for each "room". If that's actually true it's literally impossible for it to become proper discord alternative.

[–] jeff@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago

I've moved to Matrix from Discord for two small friend groups (<6 people each). Matrix is a fine replacement for the small friend Discord. But it has awhile to go before it can replace 1000+ people servers

[–] kurcatovium@piefed.social 15 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

I've seen mentioned these:

  • Stoat - pretty much same UI, based in UK, not sure where they get $$
  • Fluxer - looks virtually like 1:1 Discord clone, based in Sweden, has paid tier pretty much like Nitro on Discord on official server
  • Nerimity - a little different UI, but still very Discord-y, based in UK, sourced from donations
  • Movim - this one is interesting, but it's not really Discord style app; it looks more like cross breed between IM and social network (FB/X), origin in France
  • Strafe - looks like Discord, supposedly have e2ee
  • Spacebar - reverse engineered Discord, IDK about maturity of this one
  • Adapt - another wanna be
[–] AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

Saw this a few days ago.

[–] stom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Stoat still doesn't have screenshare. It's also a bloody stupid name - I have no idea who thought that re-brand was a good idea.

Fluxer seems to support it though.

BNoth can be self-hosted, which is a nice bonus.

[–] kurcatovium@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Do people really use screen share that much? (Sadly) I use discord to reach a lot of my friends for multiple years and we actually used screen share maybe twice? Three times?

[–] fubbernuckin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

I have used it multiple times every day this week.

[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 8 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Why is "one-to-one clone of Discord" the goal for everyone? Why not set your sights on a making a good UX instead?

[–] kurcatovium@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago

Well, Discord's UI is certainly not the holy grail, but it's quite functional and people are used to it. So it's pretty much logical you copy the concept to some extent when you want to appeal to these people?

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 3 points 10 hours ago

I don't think it's necessarily the goal — Discord is just a helpful yardstick to compare things to as a baseline (and some people are looking for something that replaces Discord as closely as possible). Having to switch services is a pain, and whilst it's not optimal in the long term to just try to replace a thing with a clone, I can see why people don't have the executive function energy to think too hard about this.

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 14 hours ago

ngl, discord kinda had the best UX before the enshittification began

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

So you're saying there are options.

Doesn't Stoat charge far out the ass?

[–] kurcatovium@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago

There are actually many, many options. It's hard to guess which one will get the momentum and lift off though. You probably don't want to convince all your friends to switch to another platform just to see it die in half a year...