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You have aπ»in your username. That makes you a "tankie" to a huge portion of the people who hate communists, too. We're both going to get sent to the same camps.
Wait, you don't support Hamas?
Lol. These are the people calling you tankies
me when I make shit up
Honestly I don't think this person is saying Hamas is genocidal. I think he's very confused and is really insistent that tankies love genocide, so he was trying to like, pre-move me. But as far as I can tell the implied genocidal regime he's opposed to is China, not Hamas. Obviously that opens a whole other can of worms but he won't reply to my last comment.
"Fuck all genocidal regiems. Does that need to be said explicitly?" as a reply to "Wait, you donβt support Hamas?" definitely sounded like calling Hamas genocidal, as did doubling down by putting "all" in bold after you tried to get him to agree Hamas was cool. China only came up later in the thread, as far as I can tell.
But if he doesn't think that, he can easily clarify.
I read it as "you're right that I support Hamas but I'm not a tankie because I oppose all genocides, not just the one in Gaza" which I admit is also a non-sequitur but not as much of a non-sequitur as also calling Hamas genocidal. But we're definitely reading tea leaves here.
By insisting that the red triangle in his display name is related to his fictional lore and not Hamas, I think he's trying to say that he opposes Hamas as a "genocidal regiem". Which is why he thinks you're "insisting" that he "likes genocide" when you continue to state that you think he supports Hamas.
Yeah, maybe, but I think what he meant by that was that I kept insisting he's a tankie but he believes tankie = genocide supporter.
Anyway, I do think his thing of specifying that tankies are defined by our defense of China's genocide specifically is interesting. I already pointed out that that excludes Maoists which I can't wait to see his reply to.
China's """""genocide""""" lmao. It will be interesting if he replies to you, but based on what he has said so far I'm not expecting much of a useful or well-informed answer.
If he reads this thread before replying, I'm gonna give him a secret hint: don't just assume that because Chairman Mao was Chinese that means Maoists are pro-China! It was actually a trick question! To answer this one halfway correctly, you might have to do at least 2 minutes of reading. To answer it very correctly, it may be necessary to get way more educated on political subjects before running one's mouth online. I recommend reading Parenti and starting at Blackshirts and Reds! I believe in you!
He was absolutely calling Hamas genocidal
Well yeah it does, you're on lemmy.world which sometimes has a lot of Zionist apologia. In most online political spaces, theπ»symbol is a reference to videos from Hamas where they would overlay a similar red triangle over an Israeli soldier/tank/military target before it gets hit.
I guess it's still germane to my point, though. If you do think Hamas is cool because you hate the genocidal regime of Israel, that makes you a "tankie" or at least comparable to one in the eyes of most anticommunists. Functionally, the people who actually will fight "tankies" (as in communists) area also the people who will put you in a camp for being anti-zionist or having other left wing positions.
you're reading too far into it my dude.
Fuck ALL genocidal regiems.
I use the red triangle specifically for my own fictional lore. Fuck everyone else ruining my day.
That's ok, forget the red triangle. That's fine. I'm saying that you're loudly voicing your opposition to "tankies" but if you despise all genocidal regimes you are a tankie yourself.
Did you read my comments above? I explained the reasoning. If you're anti-zionist you're a "tankie" to most anticommunists, they don't care that you consider yourself different to the other kinds of leftists. At the end of the day we'll be sent to the same camp.
If you subscribe to a more specific definition of "tankie" it's probably better to just say what you mean explicitly.
How about I just call you out as gods damned insane
Liberals when anyone disagrees with them: "you're mentally disabled"
Can we slow down? I don't really get what you disagree with me about.
No, you got it backwards. I'm saying that your positions make you a tankie because you oppose genocide. I'm praising you!
Fuck you
Tankies are defined by their defense of genocide committed by china.
Hold on, another point here: so are Maoists and communists that strictly take the Soviet side of the Sino-Soviet split not tankies?
What are you talking about?
You should know, the origin of the term "tankie" is related to Khruschev sending in tanks to squash a fascist movement in Hungary in 1956, way before the 1989 protests in Beijing.
"Tienaman square"
"Genocide"
Liberals really do just say things
There was a genocide in Tiananmen Square?
How do you feel about the Kent State Genocide?
What about the genocide of Ashli Babbitt?
As a Jew, I feel so safe for my future know that genocide as a term has been diminished to "When the government kills people".
Say, on a completely unrelated note, did you know that 23% of American adults 18-39 think the Shoah was fabricated or exaggerated?
Also, I guess genocide also includes people resisting genocide, apparently.
That's horrifying.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial#United_States
I feel like the volume of nonsense that user spewed in this thread really overshadowed the fact that he called the Palestinian resistance genocidal lmao.
Okay, you said "tankies are defined by their defense of genocide" but then say that there was a massacre in Tiananmen Square.
For one, that's false. No massacre has ever taken place in Tiananmen Square, and if you could find me a source that says otherwise I'd welcome it.
But also, massacre is not the same as genocide. There must be something else you're talking about.
Since when was the Palestinian resistance to genocide genocidal themselves? What kind of hasbara is this?