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Can you elaborate on why this is unethical?
I use 0.2kWh of electricity to spend a day coding with this model:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apertus_(LLM)
It is still trained on open source code on GitHub. These code communities seemingly have no way to opt out of their free (libre) contributions being used as training data, nor does the resulting code generation contribute anything back to those communities. It is a form of license stripping. That's just one issue.
Just because your inference running locally doesn't use much electricity doesn't mean you've sidestepped all of the other ethical issues surrounding LLMs.
It is not trained on open source code on Github.
But I can use it to analyze a datasheet and generate a library for an obscure module that I can then upload to Github and contribute to the community.
Apertus is most certainly trained on source code hosted on GitHub. It is laid out here in their technical report:
https://github.com/swiss-ai/apertus-tech-report
It uses a large dataset called TheStack, among others.
That's not random Github accounts or "delicensing" anything. People had to opt IN to be part of "The Stack". Apertus isn't training itself from community code.
I'm tired of arguing with you about this, and you're still wrong. It was opt-out, not opt-in, based initially on a GitHub crawl of 137M repos and 52B files before filtering & dedup.
But again, you'd have to set your project to public and your license to "anyone can take my code and do whatever they want with it" before it'd be even added to that list. That's opt-in, not opt-out. I don't see the ethical dilemma here. I'm pretty sure I've found ethical AI, that produces good value for me and society, and I'm going to keep telling people about it and how to use it.