and i said irons are on the way out because red dots are better. i didn't say anything about scopes but people don't need to try to be top percentile snipers. If you aren't engaging further than 300 meters and you're not trying to shoot to hostage rescue levels of precision at closer distances then i'll take an rds over the scope too.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The standardized rifleman optic used by darn near all militaries is some variant of medium range rifle scope, respectively being the Russian 1P86-1 and the American TA31RCO, something that can be both used in close engagements within 100m and further engagements past 300m. Training to use them gives an individual a more wider range of possible actions they can take in both conducting quick-reaction point-and-shoot drills and precise marksmanship as needed by the situation. With regards to practicality of use, it's superior to red dots because it allows for greater engagement distance which in turn allows the user to engage in distant ambush tactics and have both ample distance and time to withdraw from the area to avoid reprisal, which is overwhelmingly the most common and most practical form of asymmetric warfare that irregular forces engage in when faced with numerically and technologically superior forces. Red dot sights can only be calibrated to one set distance and can at best mildly hinder the user's combat capabilities if engaging in a varied distance firefight, red dot sights are fundamentally trapped in their niche specialization and encouraging to train exclusively in them is to trap yourself in a 100m box in the greater world of light infantry firefights. And falling back to my initial point, Iron sights usage is excellent training for gaining understanding of distance, learning visual range-finding, learning rifle zeroing calibration for engaging targets at varying distances, and ultimately as a weapon sight of last resort.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

the most likely engagement an old lady in the continental US will have in the next six months is ice breaking down their door, or the door across the street. the vast majority of defensive use is close range. long-range shooters should be working in teams with a spotter and should undertake specific training.

if my mom needs to be taking pot shots at people she can barely see we have much bigger problems.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 1 points 7 hours ago

If you're in literal close quarters combat, you don't need a red dot, you need point-shooting skill. Not mentioning the fact that the overwhelming majority of American houses are made with wood and paper and can simply be shot through. This isn't including the fact that in cases of a night assault/ambush on a personal domicile, for all intents and purposes you've already lost. Additionally in the United States, 'defensive usage' of firearms occurs as deterrent against petty crime and not against the State. Lastly, you're revealing your lack of understanding of rifle optics by not comprehending what ive said altogether and giving a muddling exposition that confuses medium-range rifle optics with long-range rifle optics.