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I've seen several references to some sort of rift between the users of these instances today. What's happening?

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

History shows that simply telling the truth isn't actually convincing for those who choose not to be open to new ideas. We all do this, none of us are immune, but only those with class interests aligned with communism tend to be open to new information challenging liberal mainstream perception.

[–] enterpries@sh.itjust.works -2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Lol, history has not shown that.

If you honestly believe that lying is going to recruit more people to your cause, then keep doing that and see how it works out for you.

The present is telling you that it's not working.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 59 minutes ago (2 children)

I can't believe anyone on the Internet is naive enough to believe that just being given factual information is enough to make people change their mind. How could you think that is true when you know, everything? Also who could doubt the power of propaganda?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 55 minutes ago

I'm pretty sure they were just taking a knee-jerk reaction deliberately. I could have said I think puppies are cute and they would have accused me of animal abuse.

[–] enterpries@sh.itjust.works 0 points 41 minutes ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago)

You're right.

Nobody is turned off by the .ml crowd because of their belief in propaganda.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

No, I don't think lying is useful. I only tell what I believe to be the truth. What I'm saying is that you can show people undeniable evidence contrary to their beliefs, and they still reject it if they aren't open to learning. Flat Earthers are a good example. If you show Flat Earthers evidence of round Earth, they deny it and call it fabricated, false, etc. The idea that ideas propogate based on truth and evidence is a nice fantasy, but instead people license themselves to believe what fits their worldview. That's how disinformation works.