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I'm amazed more people aren't standing their ground (opening fire) when masked goons jump out of an unmarked car and try to kidnap someone. So much for all that second amendment peacocking eh
Because they're not out in force in places where a high percentage of people carry.
When they raided Chicago ICE specifically stayed away from the really bad parts because they didn’t wanna get shot.
Plus most people have no combat training. I can handle aggressive drivers no problem. If masked thugs rush me with drawn weapons, I will very effectively shit myself at best, run hard at worst
This is the correct answer. They're hitting blue cities where it's mainly left leaning people who are anti-gun. Why hit a 2a strong hold if you're probably going to meet force. They'll kill for the paycheck, but they don't want to die for it.
People just don't want to be involved, and I'm not going to judge them for that.
As in, I have a wife and 2 young kids. My purpose in life is to care for and support them. If I'm at work or whatever and some goons show up to abduct someone I don't know, I'm not going to start blasting and go down in a blaze of glory because of an ideological position.
I have a very small family, including people who are in very vulnerable groups that MAGA hates. Right now, I have to mind my manners, because they rely on me. But if ANYTHING were to happen to those people, I would have nothing left to lose, and I would become very dangerous indeed.
And I'm not going down in a blaze of glory either. Revenge is a dish best served cold, and I would be far more calculated and surgical.
And if you don't resist, they'll kill you anyway. Now what?
Not necessarily. There's loads of ways to resist without getting myself shot.
If you or your wife/kids were being abducted and sent to the camps, would you be happy knowing everyone else stood by not wanting to get involved?
I get being scared, but inaction is destroying countless families. If everyone stands together, the risk factor goes down.
The comment i replied to is advocating shooting at ICE goons.
Have you shot any of them recently?
Put your dick away mate.
The truth is there would be more incidents of people fighting back if all the people here actually stood by what they say.
Notice how there isn't. Talk is cheap and this place proves it.
The truth is- youre exactly right. People don't stupidly sacrifice themselves knowing there is no popular pushback. And at this moment there is not that popular notion that things need to be overturned.
An ideological position like democracy, freedom and liberty? This is why the US is where it is. Those things don't come from nothing. They come from people willing to fight for them.
The second amendment people are absolutely on the side of Trump. They are more likely to shoot people who try to stop ICE than anything else.
We have more guns in the US than every single US citizen and we have lost more lives to gun violence than every war we have ever fought combined.
Guns don't solve our problems. It truly takes an idiot to believe they do.