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Just came up with my father again.
He blames me that mother forgot her phone's and Google password because I recommended against it being a word.
I mentioned encryption, "not necessary unless you're doing something illegal".
When mentioning lack of privacy with targeted advertisements, he said that he actually really likes them, because he bought a couple of things he wanted for years.

I don't really have good arguments.

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[–] virtualras@lemmy.world 18 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Ask them to unlock their phone and give it to me. If they have nothing to hide from me, then they truly have nothing to hide from anyone since I probably dont hold power over them (nor do I care to).

If they say yes, I show them that im going through their photos, location history, browsing history, texts, emails, all the usual suspects for surveilance. If they're ok with all of that, then by God they truly have nothing to hide.

If they say no, I ask them why. Try to let them find the answer for themselves.

Most just refuse, which is a good reminder to them that everyone has some secrets to keep. Even if they're completely innocuous.

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works -3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If they're ok with all of that, then by God they truly have nothing to hide.

Now start deleting everything or maybe sending some texts

[–] draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

That's not making an argument for privacy, that's being a jerk.

[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I think this is why the privacy argument has never worked on me. I have just let whoever go through my phone cause what's the worst that's gonna happen? You see my 100k+ unread emails that are pretty much all spam that doesn't get filtered, my porn tabs, and texts to my gf about Sonic the Hedgehog? I only have a password on my phone cause when I didn't it somehow pocket dialed the police and they came to me at work annoyed that I wasted their time.

Granted that was an older phone, but I ain't ever risking that one again.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That's why you ask for things like PIN numbers or bank passwords. Things people are constantly being told not to share.

[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip -3 points 2 hours ago

I mean mine are the same things I've used for everything. My PIN is the same 4 numbers I've used for everything that asks for a 4 digit code dating back to when the PS2 would ask for one when watching movies. My bank password is the same except with an extra number copied cause they wanted a 5 digit code on the app (I think for the website it's also just the same password I've been using since I made my first ever website account on RuneScape).

If you're wanting details like routing numbers or whatever, can't really help you there. Every time I've been asked for that info I go to the bank and get it, put it in whatever asked for it, then throw the paper away. Someone could probably dig in my trashcan or the trash of the carwash I go to and steal the small amount of money I have, but I don't really care.