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Sanders says ‘not another penny’ for ICE until Kristi Noem, Stephen Miller are gone
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Damn it Bernie, if only the Democrats hadn't sabotaged your campaign for Hillary. Where would we be today? Certainly not this hellscape. People would have forgotten Trump was even a presidential canidate by now. I'm so angry at what could have been
I agree. The Clinton’s had some heavy baggage and a straight old white dude would’ve been interesting! Idk if he would’ve won but simply having his platform endorsed would’ve changed history. He was just as angry as Trump was. If only Harambe didn’t die.
But with Bernie you knew where he stood, you knew what he was pissed about and what systems he wanted to dismantle. The rich Dems of the east Coast south and west coast couldn't handle that.
It was literally the Midwest and iron belt that supported him and pacific nw that supported him
Trump was going to destroy everything for his own benefit not for the betterment of the general public.
Nebraska is a red state, I knew more people excited about Bernie than Trump, I threw a tantrum when Hillary got the nod and was told by better off people I knew in far bigger cities and with more money that Hillary was the safe bet. Still to this day same people so excited for Gavin Newsom, they post their hatred everyday about Trump but they aren't willing to vote for anyone who will put up a fight with the fip. Gavin isn't it
I've seen people claim that they were going to vote Bernie until Clinton won the nomination, then they switched to Trump.
My mind boggles at the sheer insanity of that change, but I guess they wanted someone "different." They didn't seem to care what "different" meant.
20 years of AM radio fucked some people up.
More like almost 100 years. Learned that on the It Could Happen Here podcast. Very good and stark background of how talk radio has been dividing this country since the 1930s, using religion as its Trojan horse.
Yes but then Reagan.
Indeed. Reagan furnished the house so Trump could take a shit in it. The talk radio era I mentioned earlier excavated the ground and laid the underground utilities.
We the people need to raze the structure to the ground and declare the site a radioactive hazard, complete with the creation of an atomic priesthood and ray cats so no one ever builds there again.
Clinton was a career politician that didn't advocate for any changes, short of small ones. Trump was seen as a buffoon who would get himself impeached soon after and allow Dems to take over the Senate and House. Little did anyone know he planned on just selling the US out completely.
If you think Hilary has a lot of rejection, Bernie would have even more. Unfortunately
He also would have had to have won more primaries. It wasn’t just DWS.
People would've blamed him for everything possible and then elect trump the next time. He would say shit like: you would pay no taxes if i were president and bernie is an old cave troll. He would just stand there and americans would shake their fat fists
You’re getting downvoted but they did it with Jimmy Carter. He got blamed for EVERYTHING.
The left gets blamed for everything and takes some responsibility. The right is never held accountable and gets all the benefit of the doubt.
You say this about a country that had very real and strong support for Bernie, and you say it like more people supported trump than Bernie which is absolutely untrue.
Meh, more people supported Hillary than Bernie. The DNC tipped the scales and made a mess of things. But Hillary would have probably won that primary had they not been so fucking arrogant and corrupt. Could have just let the game play out, but they just couldn’t play fair.
All that being said, I obviously don’t know for certain. But no matter what happened, we got fucked either way.
If he had a chance of winning we would’ve seen more progressives getting elected outside of blue states since he ran.
Not necessarily, if you don't live or have lived in rural areas. Change comes ar a snails pace.
Those areas voted for Trump. Nowhere near the left side of the spectrum
They voted for Trump because he was promising a radical shake up in the government. They were down with that idea because the status quo for the last 3 decades has been garbage for common folk.
You know who else was promising a radical shake up? Bernie. I lived in red ass Iowa at the time he was running, and everyone I talked to on both sides of the spectrum loved him. He even won the primary there.
Yes, my MAGA family supported me for supporting Bernie. He didn't have the widespread opposition like Hillary. He would have been a fine president.
Don’t pretend you know why they voted for Trump.
Every MAGAT I know would never vote for Bernie. Pretending otherwise is pure copium.
These dip shit cynics need to either stfu or leave the Democratic party. Your perspective is litterally why we can't beat the fascists.
They’re called voters and they have communicated clearly through the election process that the majority of them are in the middle of the ideological spectrum and not interested in voting left of center. If leftists don’t wake up to that fact they will continue to lose elections.
Im talking about you, not voters.
You don't speak for voters and you clearly don't understand them.
The election results speak for the voters and I am just pointing out how the election results contradict your feelings of what voters want.
Democrats, as a franchise, lost the election because they failed to appeal to their base. They tried going for a non-existent, imaginary "center" voter, because, like you, their comprehension of what a voter is, what it takes to get a voter, and what default voter behavior will be, its fundamentally flawed.
Trump as the 2024 candidate was one of the least popular candidates of all time. He was one of the most defeat-able opponents in history. But, Democrats (and yourself), don't understand the world they live in.
The majority of voters are in the middle of the spectrum not far left. The election results are proof of that.
Nation wide progressives/leftists lost more elections than democrats.
Trump won in 2024 because he had the help of election tampering, foreign propaganda and the billionaire class literally buying votes. Just to name of a few things.
Take your destructive world view, a world view that quite literally handed the government to fascists, and shove it up your ass.
You don't know shit. Just like the DNC doesn't know shit. And because you think you do, you handed this country to fascism.
Ok, have fun pretending your world view is real even though it is based on your experience in an echo chamber and not the real world.
The DNC will continue to win more elections than leftist/progressives.
Trump won 2016 on a platform of anti-establishment populism, and widespread dislike of Hilary Clinton. He would have lost both of those advantages running against Bernie.
The only things he would have had left would be reactionary sensationalism, narcissistic sociopathy, jingo-nationalism, libertarian capitalist cronyism, racism, sexism, xenophonia, and homophobia.
And while those things might have had a strong hold on a concerningly large portion of the american populace, it would have been fairly niche and certainly not enough to have won an election that was already close as it was.
Trump won 2016 and 2024 because he has the Kremlin propaganda machine working for him. That’s why he has a cult following.
That too. Reactionary sensationalist populism is the modus operandi of kremlin-based foreign political interference
Even as you do exactly that, lol. Blocked.
Stay in your safe place
It's litterally those places Bernie was winning in 2016.
The profundness of the idiocy people have trying to winnow politics down to a single dimension of left versus right.
Voters who ended up going for Trump in the general were sick of the anti democratic status quo. Voters who went for Bernie in the primary were sick of the anti democratic status quo.
By forcing Hillary down the throat of the voters, the DNC fueled Trump's base.
Go search "why Trump voters vote for AOC" or "why Trump voters vote for mamdani".
You already losing us voters with this myopic view of how people dev their political identity
No I saw a lot of former Bernie bros switch their vote to trump after Hillary got nominated. That's how pissed they were at the system.
Out of the hundreds of Bernie bros I know I don’t know a single Bernie bro that voted for Trump.
If these imaginary people were tricked into voting for Trump so easily then they will easily be tricked again the next election cycle.
He was very popular in the Midwest. It's the northeast Dem elites that rejected him
He was popular in Omaha and Lincoln. Everywhere else he didn’t have a chance.
You clearly proven you don't know what you're talking about and have never been in a rural area
I have definitely been to rural Nebraska and that is what I am basing my statements on.
The reason the “blue dot” exists is because the rest of Nebraska is red. Which is the rural areas. This is verifiable and it contradicts what you are saying.
This proves you are making shit up.
Wrong. He won in wider margins in grand island, northwest and southeast he won where factories are not corporate interests
“Won” what?
Those same people would have voted for Trump 4 and/or 8 years after a Bernie victory
Quite littlerally:
Mamdani went down to the street after the Democrats failed in 2024. He asked voters who had voted for Trump "why?"
He structured his campaign on the top three answers to the question "why?", albeit, in a democratic socialist fashion.
He won the Trump voters back.
Exactly, they're feckless. They don't have any core beliefs.
If Bernie wins after Obama, the GOP is dead for good, no more majorities. The supreme Court goes left, no Trump picks. Hence no dictatorship
Let's be real, he'd have been assassinated within a year.
EDIT: btw this is not hating on Bernie, I just believe there's enough far-right nutjobs with guns that believe he's the literal communist anti-christ. Kennedy was killed for less "radical" progressive ideas.
Not even just far-right nutjobs, but liberals and establishment capitalists with billions of dollars to lose. He would have had haters from all over the spectrum.
Username checks out.