this post was submitted on 28 Jan 2026
50 points (77.8% liked)
TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name
6440 readers
626 users here now
/c/TenForward: Your home-away-from-home for all things Star Trek!
Re-route power to the shields, emit a tachyon pulse through the deflector, and post all the nonsense you want. Within reason of course.
~ 1. No bigotry. This is a Star Trek community. Remember that diversity and coexistence are Star Trek values. Any post/comments that are racist, anti-LGBT, or generally "othering" of a group will result in removal/ban.
~ 2. Keep it civil. Disagreements will happen both on lore and preferences. That's okay! Just don't let it make you forget that the person you are talking to is also a person.
~ 3. Use spoiler tags.
Use spoiler tags in comments, and NSFW checkbox for posts.
This applies to any episodes that have dropped within 3 months prior of your posting. After that it's free game.
~ 4. Keep it Trek related. This one is kind of a gimme but keep as on topic as possible.
~ 5. Keep posts to a limit. We all love Star Trek stuff but 3-4 posts in an hour is plenty enough.
~ 6. Try to not repost. Mistakes happen, we get it! But try to not repost anything from within the past 1-2 months.
~ 7. No General AI Art. Posts of simple AI art do not 'inspire jamaharon'
~ 8. No Political Upheaval. Political commentary is allowed, but please keep discussions civil. Read here for our community's expectations.
Fun will now commence.
Sister Communities:
Want your community to be added to the sidebar? Just ask one of our mods!
Creator Resources:
Looking for a Star Trek screencap? (TrekCore)
Looking for the right Star Trek typeface/font for your meme? (Thank you @kellyaster for putting this together!)
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Sorry but except for LD, everything NuTrek doesn't fit at the top of that triangle for me, and belongs in either one of the bottom corner.
Or maybe I just don't like Star Trek anymore. Just like Seymour; am I wrong for not liking NuTrek? No, it's the children who are wrong!
nutrek is just terrible under kurtzman, other than LD and prodigy.
I really like SNW, as well as your list.
Discovery and Picard were collosal "mehs".
I'm scared to try Starfleet Academy.
Nah I felt the same with Discovery and SNW. They both suffer from short seasons that don't really go exploring in favor of drama. SNW just seems more like a retread of TOS with Captain Pike. Are we ever going to go further in the continuity after 90s Trek?
std and snw suffers from kurtzmans agenda, and poor writing direction. not because its a short season. it was terrible form the get go, snw is somewhat better but the actors are so wooden in thier acting.
i forgot the nutrek has no exploration at all, its just a convoluted Enemy that turns out to be a dud. remember the "burn" its an overgrown manchild that screams and destroys ships in the future. a whole season build up only to drop it the next season.
From what very very little I've seen of SNW, it seemed to break the established universe. E.g.: the illogical irrational hyper-emoting vulcans.
I've failed to force myself to keep watching past the first appearance of that.
the actors including anson MOUnt acting was so wooden, its not even believable, lol. of course they always tease with the more interesting romulans and then drop them the next season.
While I want to say that the combined effort of JJ Abrams and DIS have thoroughly trampled that possibility. PIC
jj abrams started the decline of trek, and kurtzman just went with it, because he though it was people like lens flare, poor lighting, only flimsly action scenes.
Discovery soured me so much i haven't watched anything but Picard since.
STD, picard are the poorest quality of nutrek, snw tries to remedy it, but it still suffer from poor acting and writing. and then comes academy? sec31? lower decks and prodigy however is quite reasonable.
Poor acting on SNW? I quite enjoy that show.
Discovery (aka the Michael Burnham mary-su express) and the first two seasons of Picard are awful. Third season of Picard gets a pass because it's basically a nostalgia trip that could very nearly qualify as TNG Season 8.
Wise. Keep what little sanity and composure and faith in humanity you have left.
Nah, it's not you. Trek has changed for the worse. Sure, it's pretty and shot well, and the actors are trying. Though the writing is modern action drama for the most part. It's not written to be timeless. It's not written to be intelligent first. It's written to be "entertaining" first.
Everyone says later seasons of Picard are good, but... I just cannot. I cannot accept the universe they built. 1.5 entire seasons of shit drag it down for me. I'd take another SNW singing episode over Picard.
Academy is still continuing in the entertainment first route, but it at least seems like they're attempting to inject a little intelligence into it. Still a bit dubious on saying it's "good" trek, but at least it's not corrupt trash. Or maybe the rest of the junk has just eaten away at my sensibilities.
Picard was pretty bad from start to finish, they dropped the borg alliance the moment season 2 ended. and it was obvious baity to include the "enterprise" crew in the last few episodes.
SNW or Picard... is like choosing which form of torture. How about just "no".
I have yet to watch SNW past the point where the illogical irrational emotional vulcans first appear.
Picard, I endured the lot. Kept trying really really hard to like it, because it has Jean Luc Picard in it. Kept trying really really hard to suspend disbelief and ignore all the dumb. Kept trying to tell myself it had redeemed itself a little bit for season 3. But no. You're right. Cannot build a sound house on such swampy sloppy ground.
It's not trek. None of the Kurtzman dross is trek. Roddenberry spinning so fast in his grave, hook up a dynamo, and we could power a warp drive.
I do wish someone would confront the makers of the Kurtzman crap with the idea "what if all art is a tool of manifestation", and let them face the horror of what they've done.
picard/patrick stewart seemed very Low energy in his acting for the whole show, like hes just not into it at all, likely hates doing trek roles by now, since had done it for along time before. wasnt kurtzman the showrunner of transformers, and he admited he dint watch any trek series, and just ignored continuity?
Huh. I'll have to give Lower Decks a chance; it's the only one with the name Kurtzman attached that I haven't yet watched and been disappointed by.
Lower Decks is top tier Star Trek.
The more widespread your Star Trek knowledge, the more you'll enjoy it.
It's Star Trek written by true Star Trek nerds.
What if you don't enjoy people acting obnoxiously? S.O.L.?
Stick to true trek.
Maybe even explore the books.
funny thing kurtzman stole material from the fan-novels, the books arnt canon though. and even went cringe as so far to use words from the alpha and beta wiki pages. the borg alliance with federation from a fan novel, rogue changling from another book, more than likely he just searched on memory beta(non-canon) works. STO would be canon-adjacent.
Then stick through the first couple eps. The characters do develop. I was kinda meeeer first watch, but then it found its feets
I thoroughly enjoyed Lower Decks, just because it's a comedy doesn't mean it isn't serious sci fi with real stakes like any other trek show. It highlights how absurd the writing of trek throughout can be and still rolls with it, still treating that absurdity with the same seriousness as everything else crazy in the universe.