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[–] Dirt_Possum@hexbear.net 8 points 20 hours ago

This comment is extremely well said and gets at something very deep and important. Thank you for saying it so well and I hope more eyes read it. In every case I've seen of fascist sympathizers (aka fascists who aren't wearing boots yet) justifying the crimes of ICE, or regular cops, or whatever bourgeois institution murdering workers, they frame it in a way that the perpetrators of these crimes are a simple force of nature, a physical law, exactly like you said, rather than the outcomes of those cop's choices, just as arbitrary if not more so as the choices made by their victims. They'll say "that person made the CHOICE to challenge the cops/ICE/institutional power, and that choice resulted in an expected outcome, their death," blaming the victim. And they'll call it "logic" like this fucking bootlicking loser who is now banned. But it's never framed the other way around. They'll never frame it as the result of the choices made by ICE/cops, where the response to their violence and oppression is the natural force, even though it's just as valid of a framework. There are fascists with institutional authority who are making arbitrary decisions about who they want to murder, whether it was a planned out operation, or a choice made in the moment when they executed some "uppity" civilian. Of course there are going to be people who challenge them, it is a natural consequence (like a physical law) resulting from the pressure created by the choice fascists have made to oppress people. There will be those who resist, inevitably, and there will be those who are no threat but get murdered anyway - by definition a natural consequence of fascists with power. The bootlicking fascist-sympathizing logic-enjoyers want to make everything that happens some deterministic series of events (your reference to a Rube Golberg Machine being the chef's kiss perfect analogy) but they'll sob and cry foul the second one of those institutional fascists gets the inevitable natural consequence of what's coming to them. Once that third law of motion kicks in they're going to forget all about "natural consequences."