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I am someone born in the USA and white and male, so I am less at risk of harassment and brutality than others.

My take on things is that Trump is probably a Russian asset and Russian leadership probably wants a US civil war (but I don't have proof).

Midterms are still many months away. I am pretty sure Democrats realize that Trump wants conflict and they are trying to just wait for Midterms.

I am scared and feel like civil war could still happen. I have no children, few ties to any area, and only work remotely. I live in a very liberal area. I am mostly a poor person and have less than $25,000 saved.

I also have been arrested and held in terrible conditions in a notorious jail, experienced physical and emotional abuse there, and fear being arrested again and experiencing more abuse. Some of the things I experienced meet definitions of torture although not egregious physical torture (iron maiden type stuff). I am also gay and effeminate and worry I could receive worse treatment if involuntarily held for mental health reasons or for poverty because of homophobia by religious people.

Should I be trying to flee the USA now? If so, would Canada be safe? Is there anywhere else I could go to? I could claim asylum in a Northern European country but am concerned about the Russian War of Aggression.

I do not know if I am over-reacting. Will I still have time to flee if I wait and the situation gets worse?

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[–] Melobol@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Leaving a country isn't that easy. And other countries has problems also - and being foreign in a country isn't for everyone.
I believe there is no reason to flee - yet.
People are angry but it's not revolution angry. I don't think with the media and smartphones and all the distractions will let people to do revolution.
If you still inclined to do so, check your tartget countries requirements for asylum or immigration. There are a lot of loops and hoops.
Learning a local language, getting a job, a place to live and eke out a life in a strange place without support is really hard.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It isn't that easy but there are many immigrants showing you it's possible. And if they're American and have little to no contact with their families then they're already lacking in support. I think it's time to escape the sinking ship.

[–] Melobol@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

If you decided then, it is time to make a to do list.
Check what skills you have, figure out how you are going to make a living.
Research your realistic options. Read local news see what's the actual political climate there. It's not going to be easy. Good luck and hope you find what you seek!

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've seen messages saying "time to take up arms" in response to the latest ICE execution.

I've moved abroad twice, it can be difficult but it's worth it.

[–] Melobol@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Taking up arms against ice isn't the same as revolution - it could lead to it but: there is a reason why revolutions started in the spring and not in the middle of insane winter storms.
I'm not saying it's not possible but: we are manipulated from every side.

[–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

It's really not that hard to leave a country. I've done 1+ years in four foreign countries now. I could have spent the rest of my life in any of them. My least favourite was the US. Twice I only had $7000 to my name (and depending on your country of citizenship this is probably the biggest barrier, besides actually choosing to leave the first time) with no job