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Yeah, that's so much better now, isn't it? But at least you can smugly bask in your self-righteous both-sides-ism.
No, Blue MAGA, those of us who are actual activists aren't "basking" in anything while half the country cheers racism and the other half pretends their preferred corporate-owned actors are an actual solution.
But I understand how you'd be confused, given the prevalence of the "we'd be out to brunch if Holocaust Harris got elected" narrative in your corporate-and-Zionist-owned party.
Thankfully the youth get it even if you don't.
The problem with the youth is inexperience. They don't understand why that won't work. You need a strong candidate that's not wholly owned by the other side. The sole role of all the damned independents so far was to dilute the primary vote from one side or the other so they could dump out in the 11th hour.
Right now independents are fighting corporations and billionaires with more money than god that can run smear campaigns. If you did manage to get somone like Stein in who has a lot of good answers to a lot of questions, neither side is going to let her do a damn thing. If you want independents in, you're going to have to get them into Congress, and you're going to have to fight all of corporate america to do so. It's not enough to say, well I'd pass single-payer helathcare, you'd actually have to get over half of congress to do it and you know damn well they clowns in control aren't going to do that.
You mean like Bernie Sanders who the DNC openly rigged their primaries against and then had a court declare they were within their legal right to do so?
I don't disagree with what you're saying about independents and Congress, etc etc. Personally, I do not think America is salvageable. I think it will bleed out slowly like Rome, with corruption scandals and civil rights decay and further-ballooning inequality and de-facto balkanization, until one day, someone looks around and realizes that the USA is functionally gone. I always think about the quote where someone asks a gambler how they lost all their money. Their response: "Slowly at first, then all at once." I think that is how America will fall, and indeed, already is falling.
That's why I already half-jokingly refer to myself as a citizen of the New California Republic lol. But if I'm wrong and there is any chance of salvaging the nation, I am completely certain that the ironically-fundamentally-undemocratic DNC offers no path to that outcome. No institution which accepts money from corporations or Zionists will ever serve the American people.
Bernie was not cheated, you blue MAGA dumbfuck.
No they didn't, that's a dumbass lie propagated by butt hurt Bernie Bros who can't fathom that Bernie isn't as popular in real life as he is in their internet echo chambers.
What reform? There's one thing people like you are always short on; details.
didnt read
edit: spacing; Kinda supports the rest of what I said no?
edit: spacing; quite possible.
edit: spacing; We're already there. That's how this happened.
edit: spacing; I agree. But we need a bigger shift, this isn't going to happen because one guy or even 5 sensible people get elected. Until that point, DNC is by far the lesser of two evils, but we can't afford to ride that. We need grassroots that can organize and reform, back the lesser of two evils and work their way into proper control.
The nation started with only white, land-owning men being able to vote (land which they stole from indigenous people using genocidal violence). Now it's mostly only wealthy, land-owning, disproportionately-white men and women influencing the direction of the nation (at least "through the proper channels").
I think you might have a mythologized vision of America based on the Civil Rights era. That was the exception, not the rule.
Once you reach the point where you're guilty of genocide, I don't think you're allowed to play "lesser" evil anymore. Even if you "only" genocide 400,000 people and 'the other guy' genocides 800,000 people, you're both just irredeemably evil.
Again, we already had that with Bernie Sanders and the DNC rigged it. "Grassroots reform" in the capacity you're talking about is a democratic function. You cannot play democracy with a fundamentally un-democratic institution.
fair
I disagree, but it's not worth pursuing, also fine.
So the answer is moonshot for independent, which will fail and keep RNC in office. That's your plan? Let's just genocide the non whites here?
Kind of tiresome to keep covering the same ground, Bernie wasn't fucking grass roots. You're not going to encact change by chaning out the head. You need to start at the bottom, push congress, then roll over the SCOTUS. You're not going to move shit by putting in an ineffective president over a butthurt congress.
I don't have a plan for salvaging America because I do not believe it's salvageable. I already said that earlier in this discussion. I've spent days and days and days thinking about it, and that's the conclusion I've arrived at. This political discussion we're having here isn't me suggesting how to save the nation; I just refuse to sign my name on endorsing a genocidaire to command the world's largest military. I'm under no illusion that that will stop the genocide, it'll just alleviate my own complicity to the extent possible while still living within America. (As well as being sure to avoid buying any Israeli goods, supporting BDS boycotts, etc.) I believe any person of conscience should also refuse to be complicit in such a manner.
My activism is not aimed at saving America, it's aimed at helping innocent people survive what I view as its inevitable collapse with as little suffering as possible. Building community and food sovereignty. It's nothing glorious but it's more glorious than starving.
Are you calling yourself Blue MAGA?
Why the fuck is "corporations" only planted at the Democrats door?
And you didn't answer his question regarding Israel because you're too chickenshit. Fucking coward.
Damn I've got a fan huh?