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[–] U7826391786239@lemmy.zip 37 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

they left out "i loved this book when i read it as a teenager, and only noticed the nationalism/sexism/racism when i grew up"

for me: alas, babylon

[–] T156@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Enid Blyton. Lovely concepts, but there was a bit of racism that crept in. Even if a lot of it was largely relegated to stereotypes.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 26 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

When I was a teenager, the Ender's Game series was about exceptionally smart children. As an adult, it's about eugenics and forgiving Hitler.

[–] mika_mika@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago

I don't think this is fair. Even the concept of society labeling "thirds" is portrayed as something disturbing.

And the sociopath brother becomes the hegemon of the planet earth if I recall correctly, and this also is not a good thing, but more seen as a dystopia reality. The military isn't seen as good, but manipulative.

Are the children bred as soldiers or to be leaders in society ever portrayed as good? it reads as tragic.

Is Hitler the queen of the hive in your eyes or Peter? Because Peter definitely isn't seen as positive and the hive is a different form of existence that eventually leads to the message that different species despite all origins or existence in a hypothetical can eventually come to coexist if mutual understanding is somehow found.

(I'm queer and Card is a bigot who can eat it, but I don't think any of it really shows in his writing.)

[–] U7826391786239@lemmy.zip 20 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

another book i loved when i was stupid(er).

doesn't help that orson scott card is still a raging homophobe. brandon sanderson is also a mormon, but (it looks like) he was able to grow the fuck up and stop being a bigot

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Oh. Oh that's makes sense thinking back on it.

[–] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Sword of Truth series for me.

[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

If I had read that series a few years earlier I probably would have liked it. It felt like the author just hated women, and I was just old enough to go “What the hell?”

Edit: It’s been a while, can’t remember if this is the one I’m thinking of or if I read a similar series at the same time.

[–] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No, I think you're thinking of the correct one. There's a lot of weird sexual hangups about women in there that seem odd as a teen, and disqualifyingly gross as an adult.

[–] Gathorall@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I remember trying this series out in my teens, having already gone trough quite a few, and I remember it being the first book I just dropped under a half trough, but I couldn't remember why until know. I just remembered it as shallow and depressing to read.

[–] Prancingpotato@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Oh this one is really something. Even as a clueless teen I still had WTF moments, and I don't even want to read it now, I just know I will be cringing the whole time.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world -2 points 10 hours ago

Didn't read it as a teenager, but had I done so I'm pretty sure that Nineteen Eighty-Four would've fallen into that category. The protag is insufferable and sexist as hell. Never even bothered finishing that one. After the 2nd or third clandestine meeting to fuck the manic pixie dream nympho I was struggling to care anymore.