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Taleb to me feels like a decently more hinged Peterson with a different set of interesting little ideas that have been extrapolated into a disproportionate reverence.
Discussing pop philosophy on here feels weird enough, but what do you like about the guy? He feels like Ayn Rand if she was made in a lab to appeal to my 19 year old shithead self. I feel like the fact that he feels the need to be a quippy Twitter person is a pretty big indicator that he doesn’t actually believe in any of the big picture thinking that first made me want to go read his work.
I don’t think he’s as insidious, but I don’t trust this guy.
In lieu of giving a longer answer because I’m about to head for a hike - when I read his essay The Intellectual Yet Idiot in 2016 it went a very long way to tearing me out of the big-D Democrat/Clintonite mentality I was in. It’s also worth keeping in mind while reading this essay that he is a cut above standard anti-elite schlock. For example, he was super into covid protections when they were socially radioactive among the libertarians/right.
Mind if I ask you a bit more context on your life circumstances when you read the piece about employees?
Asking because one of the things that brought me to communist thought was the realization that no matter where I go, I'll be just as tied to the need to get money as I am now, but in different circumstances.
Perhaps that would not be the case if I fled to a self-sufficient commune or something of the sort, but there aren't many of that left in the world.
So, my takeaway from that article is that, even if you are brilliant in making money like Taleb tells he was, the compulsion to make more is something no one will ever be free from (at least until the revolution).
(sorry if this is too rambly, but this piece also resonated with me)
The things I liked in that piece were (1) the identification of the "companies person" concept, which explained a personality type common to my coworkers which I disliked and couldn't find a good explanation for, and (2) the proposition that while salaried workers might seem more stable than non-salaried, in reality they are less able to adapt to changing circumstances and at risk of suddenly going bust by way of becoming unemployable.
Thanks for responding! Mind if I ask you if the realization in 2) made you look for a career change, e. G. open your own business or something of the sort? Asking b/c it's something I'd like to do, but getting clients is hard.
I do independent contracting now, which has nice aspects but I definitely make less money. Starting a business might be in the cards in the moderately near future but who knows.
Interesting. Thanks for getting back to me. I’ll try to be brief as well.
He helped pull me out of a rightish-wing phase myself. I say rightish because I thought I was being a enlightened centrist liberal. Antifragile made me feel like I was very smart. He didn’t trigger the breakdown and reconstruction of my beliefs, but I got into his stuff at a critical time in my life and I think most of what I read certainly didn’t hurt. But the more I learned about him the more I felt I had to quickly outgrow him (leftward).
I don’t have any links because I don’t use Twitter, but when I looked him up after reading the book and looking into him, I was surprised to see that he was prolific on there. Basically his whole schtick about not obsessing over the news cycle and short term stuff seems more important to me now than ever and he seems to buck that entirely by trying to be a Twitter guy.
Like him, I’m also from Lebanon, I’m also from the same sectarian community. Christian nationalism in Lebanon is a very very specific thing and it’s very different from what you’re used to seeing in the west. Long story short I read him and his public persona as a Christian nationalist influencer. His opinions on language and culture in the context of Lebanon, meat-glued together by “west is best (and as Lebanese Christians, we count as west)” really make me feel like he’s a dangerous influence. I somewhat articulated some thoughts on Lebanese Christian supremacy here, but I understand linking him to it might be hard to do briefly here.
I don’t wish to dox myself but a lot of my acquaintances are researchers of linguistics and he’s been very helpful in boosting the study of our Lebanese dialects, helping them get study participants and stuff. Like too eager. To separate our eloquent language from the barbaric Arabic that the rabble around us uses. In a vacuum it’s fine to be into studying our language, in practice…
There’s an old tweet I remember seeing where someone asks him if it’s okay to say “شكراً” (shukran), which is “thank you” in formal modern standard Arabic. He says no, either use “يسلمو” (yeslamo) or merci (French). The first of these is derived from the old languages and not Arabic, it’s what most people in Christian areas say. If you say it there’s nothing wrong, but if you insist that this one and the French one are more correct than the standard Arabic one most urban Muslims use… it’s a tiny example but it’s the only one I can write with this little context. Going for brevity here, if you can believe it. There’s more examples.
I broadly see him as a “better” or less harmful Peterson for what that’s worth. Maybe to you he’s been a novel critique of capitalism (seems he’s more interested in analyzing it than smashing it though), to me he’s a textbook example of the smarmy “intellectual” I thought I wanted to be. I think he’s a dyed in the wool Lebanese Christian nationalist though and I can’t endorse him for that. I’m sorry I don’t know enough about your culture (or even mine honestly) to build a compelling explanation of what that means. To me, Lebanese Christian nationalism is indivisible from Lebanese Christian supremacy, Islamophobia, and even a begrudging admiration of the Zionist project and a yearning to do something similar. It’s likely he’s not extreme in his views, but he’s also spreading them very far and wide and presenting them alongside pop philosophy.
The Peterson analogy works for me because at the center of their fame is/was a cool jaunt into a topic that feels underdiscussed in the mainstream, and they both have/had a type of charisma that really appeals to some people. Using past tense for the lobster man because his crashout has been very publicly visible and his “credibility” has fallen apart.
I hope this was interesting. And I hope you had a nice hike. I didn’t go for a hike. I made soup for five hours. It came out okay.
Edit: found it
That was informative, thank you! I am not Lebanese so don't know much about what Christian nationalism there means, but what you say tracks from what I read on his twitter. He will say things like "nothing anything against ethnostates, but..." when criticizing israel (which to his credit he has been doing very vociferously throughout the genocide in Gaza, even directly calling out others who said nothing).
wrt his activity on twitter, I think he still has this idea that social media allows truth to come forward more readily than hegemonic news media; probably most of us here on lemmy hold a similar belief, except further extended to specify "non-corporate-run" social media.
I see what you mean in that comparison to Peterson. I suppose his political appeal was a non-left anti-war perspective that wasn't just "it isn't worth the cost in OUR TROOPS' lives", which was pretty much impossible to find anywhere else. He definitely does love capitalism, some idealized version of it where entrenchment of oligarchy is impossible and people will spend their entire lives moving somewhat randomly up and (importantly) down social classes as their business fortunes wax & wane.