The whole podcast is 2 hours long and it is pretty clear that the purpose is that he's trying to signal civility politics. Ben Shapiro says that both sides are on wrong in the Renee Good shooting, that he thinks Trump is avoiding responsibility but also he likes ICE. Gavin Newsom says he agrees.

They are disagreeing about sanctuary cities. Gavin says he supports them and Ben opposes. Cops used to support sanctuary cities because undocumented migrants are more willing to report crimes. Racists hate sanctuary cities because they don't want any migrants.

At 27 minutes in the podcast, Gavin Newsom says that Kamala Harris ran on abolishing ICE in 2024 and that he didn't support Kamala for that reason. No the fuck she didn't say abolish ICE. Kamala put out multiple campaign ads saying that she would fund ICE more than Trump would.

I might post more notes later. Ben Shapiro started out the podcast by talking about how he was bullied in school. Clearly not enough.

[–] Civility@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

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