there's a lot more small biz tyrants than petit bourgeois class traitors but the latter do exist and need to be found/linked up with! revolutionaries have always had to find friendly bars, etc, to have their meetings and whatnot at after all.

EDIT: in the context of the chart, the types of sympathizers/traitors i'm thinking of may fit better in "the sympathetic base"

[–] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

in my opinion you can only really be a class traitor if you are deeply educated and commited to the struggle, therefore by the charts creators intent they should not be in the masses.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

You don't need to be educated at all to be a class traitor, and I don't think you really need to be "deeply committed" so long as you're substantively mainly siding against your class interests, because that's what the word means. It's not a moral status of being absolved for the sin of being bourgeois and we shouldn't treat it as prohibitively restrictive for such a purpose. It's a simple descriptive term, and you can still be a "class traitor" to the bourgeoisie while being a piece of shit.

[–] InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

nah people are class traitors all the time for completely personal reasons, like who their spouse, family, friends, community are. Or maybe based on strong moral or religious foundations or personal experiences against the carceral state, or a myriad of other reasons

[–] jack@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

Precarious small bourgeoisie with few or no employees can easily align with proles out of class interest