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So... I guess it's true that mass deportations and genocide and police brutality are more palatable when it's all done "quietly/civilly' and under a blue banner. Or I'm being too cynical here
Okay, that's somewhat useful–
Nah please don't tell me these "independents" buy into the idea that the Democrats are actually the far left
WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD ICE MURDERING RANDOMS
And before ice it was just as bad, if not worse.
Violent crime has been going down since the 1970s after abortion was legalized, birth control pills were available, and lead was reduced.
Both my parents came from a small town that in the 1950s had an ordinance that blacks could be shot if in the city limits, after sunset, if without a white escorting them .
Lots and lots of violence happened in the USA that was not reported in the news. The murder rates from previous decades are very much underestimated.
The narrative I've been seeing getting tossed around is that "Obama did it by treating them like humans and following proper procedures"
Like, they're practically going mask-off on how they don't actually care about the vile shit ICE, or even the police, have done, so long as it's all "legal" enough for their sensibilities. Which isn't surprising, but man is it bad for the blood pressure
Remember how we had kids in cages a few months into trump's first term
and noone talked about how those "temporary holding facilities" were an Obama era policy? Or how we stopped talking about them as soon as Biden came in? 
even though deportations increased under him?
I think Biden reversed the policy of separating kids from parents, which is a perfect encapsulation of the "pulling the knife halfway out" method of solving the problem Malcom X talked about.
I’m being sarcastic. This hasn’t always gone on, referring back to Obama everytime someone dies under this vastly expanded gestapo is beyond pretentious.
I don't understand how it's pretentious, would you mind expanding?
It's what happened last time he was president
also the reason why some users argued he was the "harm reduction candidate" out of the two parties. Boden deported more people than Trump 1, ICE has been around since Dubya (I think) and cops get more money every year. At least under Trump it's blatant and libs pay attention.
ICE is the rebrand INS went through after 9/11 and the creation of Homeland Security, my car is older than ICE.
The only thing I can think of when people mention INS is the Wu-Tang lyric. Anyway with the economy how it is and new things being worse than old things, you having a car that's older than ICE could mean anything between 6-60 years (I'm being cheeky, I understand what you mean)