So... I guess it's true that mass deportations and genocide and police brutality are more palatable when it's all done "quietly/civilly' and under a blue banner. Or I'm being too cynical here

WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD ICE MURDERING RANDOMS

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And before ice it was just as bad, if not worse.

Violent crime has been going down since the 1970s after abortion was legalized, birth control pills were available, and lead was reduced.

Both my parents came from a small town that in the 1950s had an ordinance that blacks could be shot if in the city limits, after sunset, if without a white escorting them .

Lots and lots of violence happened in the USA that was not reported in the news. The murder rates from previous decades are very much underestimated.

[–] SmithrunHills@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The narrative I've been seeing getting tossed around is that "Obama did it by treating them like humans and following proper procedures"

Like, they're practically going mask-off on how they don't actually care about the vile shit ICE, or even the police, have done, so long as it's all "legal" enough for their sensibilities. Which isn't surprising, but man is it bad for the blood pressure

[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Remember how we had kids in cages a few months into trump's first term social-democracy and noone talked about how those "temporary holding facilities" were an Obama era policy? Or how we stopped talking about them as soon as Biden came in? why-angel even though deportations increased under him?

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

I think Biden reversed the policy of separating kids from parents, which is a perfect encapsulation of the "pulling the knife halfway out" method of solving the problem Malcom X talked about.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I’m being sarcastic. This hasn’t always gone on, referring back to Obama everytime someone dies under this vastly expanded gestapo is beyond pretentious.

[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

I don't understand how it's pretentious, would you mind expanding?