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A one year old son. Which means they were together when he already went full batshit crazy.
No empathy for her here. Only feel sorry for their son.
I mean she was 23 or 24 when she said those things. Most of us are total morons at that age.
I hate that there’s no room for atonement and growth in the current conversation. I don’t know anything about her other than what I see in this article, but if she’s genuinely sorry and looking to support the people she hurt, that’s worth a ton. She grew as a person. Good for her.
At that age, we tend to be a bit more naive than later in life. This does not make it excusable for the things she did. At age 12 and above, you start to learn that even words can be very hurtful. So if you do shit like her 10 years later, something is off very badly.
That being said, we all learn and from my personal experience, a pregnancy can change people drastically. So I really hope for her and her son, that she moves on and does better in the future.
Speak for yourself.
I’ve known 12 yr olds with more maturity and learning about owning their actions, dealing with heavy shit like death, pronouns and minority rights than a 53 yr old just in this past year. Heck, just in the last month I was confronted with a child no older than 6 owning his mistakes and apologizing for it. No excuses.
Part of the problem is allowing people to treat others like doormats, shirking responsibility over their actions brushing it off like an age, era and/or gender thing and this does nothing but create infighting over stupid shit like ageism.
Be better than this.
She can own she made a mistake like any fully functioning adult would.
Isn't that exactly what she did?
Damn, that's an excellent apology. It's obviously worth nothing if the actions don't reflect a genuine desire to change, but it's worth everything if they do.
I'm sick and tired of alienating those who change for the better. I want people to feel like progressives are the good and welcoming people who just want everyone to be equal and the best they can be.
Yeah, I don't have any horse in this race, any more than the average person should, and I haven't put any effort into seeing who's made the choice to have kids with Elon, so this is everything I know about her, but that certainly sounds like a well thought out, heartfelt apology, with no equivocation. People need to be given room to grow if the world is going to get any better, even in a shitty time like this.
This is why I am not a big fan of Leopard’s Eating My Face posts.* Most of the time it’s regular people realizing their mistake. When people realize their mistakes, these are the cracks for progressives to spread a progressive ideals.
*The only time I enjoy Leopards Eating My Face posts are when the subject had a power and chose not do anything.
I see that and Good for her. However my comment was directed to the above commenter making excuses on her behalf using age. Im circumventing a flawed thought process of excusing abuse and bullying should be owed forgiveness over weak arguments such as age without ownership or meaningful apology.
Personally I’m glad she herself showed maturity here and didn't use such excuses.
I think people at any age need to be given room to grow.
And people holding them and they holding themselves accountable: this is growth. We’re saying the same thing here. Not sure where we are missing each other.
There has to be room for forgiveness if you ever want people to positively change. She admitted that she was wrong and is trying to atone for it by advocating for the cause.
People can absolutely change as they get older and gather more life experiences, and we should be supporting those who realize the things they thought before were wrong and are working on changing themselves for the better.
Sorry, this is the Internet. There is no room for nuance or forgiveness.
A) While many of us are total morons at that age about a lot of things, by that point in your life most people know not to be hateful toward others. Even so, I will concede that we should be more forgiving of the things she said.
B) The point is not that she was too young to know what she said was wrong. The point is that she dated Elon while he was publicly and outwardly a batshit crazy Nazi. It's one thing for the other women who dated him when he was better at hiding how crazy he was, but this child was conceived AFTER he did the Nazi salute multiple times on stage in public. At 23 years old you should know not to date a literal Nazi.
Idk at what point ppl started thinking he wasn't always like he is now, it's just less pretending (bcs no downsides), but you can clearly tell by his history that he was always a scumbag.
Isn’t she some kind of right-wing influencer? The crazy was probably a plus.