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What would've JRR Tolkien said if you'd told him that his works would become the equivalent of Norse mythology and Wagner to a new and even more embarrassing generation of Nazis (hexbear.net)

submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) by doublepepperoni@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

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Like if you'd told him that some turbodweeb would name his automated gestapo machine Palantir without a shred of irony, or some other dweeb naming a weapons company Anduril

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[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Good vs evil stories all work with fascism. Conflict must be represented in a more complex way to avoid it.

Two exceptions come to mind, Wolfenstein and Avatar.

[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Chuds like the corporate colonizers from Avatar and think they're cool.

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 3 points 5 days ago

I don't think that would be alleviated by making them more sympathetic.

[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

This is not a counter to Beanis Brain's point. It would be if chuds identified with the Na'vi, and in that sense coopted the simple good vs evil story for their own narratives. Instead Avatar so clearly lays out the nature ( smug-explain ) of the players in the conflict that chuds can only look at it and say

"RDA did nothing wrong! kill-em-all "