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is it naïve of me to feel, deep in my bones, that despite how bleak it is now, the Western Bourgeoisie are overplaying their hand (hexbear.net)

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Like, yeah, they can 'get away with' ending soft power. They can 'get away with' extrajudicial killings. They're operating off of pure machismo right now. They're getting drunk on their vices. They're stripping masks where masks wouldn't be advised to be stripped. I feel like I understand now that Fascism is, in part, an expression of weakness. They wouldn't be doing this unless they were scared. It's too volatile. It feels both too late on a power-level and too early on a popular-level. Never mind the ticking time bomb that is AI data centers. It feels like, and I'm sure this is cope, there is a timer on their ability to run the circus much longer.

My first instinct here is to doubt myself, intellectual pessimism and all. In that vein, maybe this is just revolutionary optimism, but we're at the point where it feels like there is a palpable anger brewing in the basement. I don't know. Maybe Palantir works as an anti-communist panopticon and we just death spiral forever. I don't want to lose hope.

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[–] Orbital@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Respectfully, you don't know me. I am no MAGA and it's not over.

In the 50+ years since the Southern Strategy, do you see evidence that the Democratic Party is capable of systemic change, much less of leading the country toward it?

The two-party system has driven untold misery at home and abroad. What most Americans see as our past stability, many other humans see as looting the globe and driving its people into poverty and servitude.

The idea that change can only ever come through voting and elected representatives, around here, that's called electoralism. No shade, many people of goodwill thought that was the best they could do. The most casual reading of history shows clear alternative paths.

FYI the Indivisible campaign in the US has attempted your proposal, Tea Party strategy from the liberal "left"

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 0 points 3 days ago

You won't catch me defending the Democratic party, I've been an Unafilliated Independent since I first registered to vote in 1977. I hate both parties, and don't want to be a member of either club. Instead, I belong to the largest group of voters - Independents.

But I also recognize that it is a two party system, and right now, the party that would be the most likely to influence toward our side is the Democratic Party. That's just reality.

Throughout the 80s and 90s, I watched the Republicans totally reconfigure their party into a powerhouse, mostly through the careful growth and deployment of the Conservative Propaganda Machine, until they created the monster called the Tea Party, which eventually embraced MAGA. They played a long term game, and won.

The Dems need to do get in the game, and reconfigure their party for the future battle, and they don't have the luxury of decades to do it. They have to strike hard and fast, and WE have to force them to do it.

If they don't, if we allow them to lay back and take it once more, we are likely to lead to Civil War, Balkanization, perhaps worse.

I'm still trying to fight back while we still have legitimate legal options like elections to justify any later actions that need to be taken. I'm also still hoping that these Dumb Apes will be undone by their own virtuosic incompetence. Give them enough rope, and they'll hang themselves, and they're already trying to tie a noose, so there is progress on that front.

The only problem is how much damage they'll do along the way, so it's imperative to do anything we can to speed their downfall.