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These are just collections of some of my comments this morning as someone who's put a lot of time and effort into learning about Venezuela over the past 5 years. My bookshelf is full of books about it, and I wrote my university dissertation on imperialism in Latin America. No, I'm not an expert, but I certainly know more than your average person. These takes are field tested against liberals and conservatives alike, and they usually just shut up about it and change the topic.

ON MADURO'S 'AUTHORITARIAN REGIME'

Tricky one - authoritarian? Technically true.

But what country wouldn't enter a state of law and order if you had an invasion force on your coastline for 20 years? When multiple coups have been attempted supported by a foreign government? A foreign government that currently funds political yet 'non governmental organisations' for the opposition party in your country to the tune of millions of dollars when the average monthly wage in the country is $200? When that opposition party has repeated supported coups and foreign influence? When a country has repossessed billions of dollars of gold, and explicitly states it wants to strangle your economy until the country chokes? When there's a 200 year old precedent of U.S invasion in the region? When the U.S is following the classic playbook for invasion?

You either roll over and have your country sold to the highest bidders, or you put the walls up. Look at any country in wartime. This is the only way to conceptualise this. Latin America has been at war with the U.S since the 1800's (The Monroe Doctrine - 1823). EDIT: in the press conference, Trump just called it the 'Donroe Doctrine'. FML.

So here's my task for you all: Ask an American how they'd feel if China had done even half of those things in America. How would the U.S react?

ON VENEZUELAN REFUGEES FLEEING THE REGIME

Can't stand this line being parroted about how '8 million refugees fled the Maduro regime' because its a tyrannical government, when the reality is that they fled a country whose economy was being strangled by the USA to the point of collapse. The USA openly admits they were essentially holding the Venezuelan people hostage by destroying the economy - presenting two options: live in poverty or overthrow Maduro.

Here's John Bolton talking about it: "The effect of the sanctions is continuing and cumulative. It’s sort of like in Star Wars when Darth Vader constricts somebody’s throat, that’s what we are doing to the regime economically." Yes, seriously, he compared America to Darth Vader.

If this ends in a new right wing Venezuelan comprador government, there will be an 'economic miracle', and the west will report that Venezuela has been saved. The reality is that the sanctions would be taken off the economy, and a large extraction of wealth would take place within the oil sector, thus inflating GDP. In the short term, the people of Venezuela will see an increase in quality of life - a quality of life they never would have lost in the first place were it not for U.S encirclement. I'm sure a lot of Venezeulans won't fight the change in government because it means a (perhaps temporary) reprieve from poverty, and peoples material circumstances are, as we all know, the bottom line.

ON NARCO TRAFFICKING CHARGES:

So Maduro's got a 50 million dollar bounty on his head and is deposed, when the USA has a long history of endorsing drug trafficking for their own purposes. Let's not forget that the USA supported and did business with Manuel Noriega (a prolific trafficker) throughout the Iran CONTRA affair until he stopped serving US interests (so they then couped him). And Trump just pardoned the conservative ex president of Honduras Orlando Hernandez, despite the fact that:

"US prosecutors argued that he was a central figure in a more than 18-year-long drug-trafficking scheme that funnelled over 400 tonnes of cocaine into the US - equivalent to roughly 4.5 billion individual doses", and "US federal prosecutors accused him of accepting a $1m bribe from notorious drug lord Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán for his first presidential campaign in exchange for protecting narcotics routes through Honduras." Prosecutors also detailed how "Hernández abused office by shielding drug traffickers armed with machine guns and grenade launchers. In exchange, he received millions of dollars to fuel his political campaigns."


**There are of course more arguments than this, but yeah, these are the big three in my opinion. **

I would add something about 'rigged elections', but I don't have time right now as it's quite complex. The bottom line is that there cannot be calls for democracy when USAID and other US State Department fronts have had major influence in Venezuelan and Latin American society for decades. It's the old capitalist myth of free speech - where said free speech is controlled by the ruling class.

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[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

i’m not convinced on the drug trafficking allegations, but even if it’s true, what a lame ass reason to go to war. if people are turning to drugs en masse maybe it’s because life in your country is shitty and you should do something to improve that, especially considering the US has the wealth to improve society somewhat

[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Oh, yes, I forgot to mention that it's way overblown. Of course there's always going to be some drug trafficking in an area where coca plants can grow, but there's far more across the border in Colombia - magnitudes more - and Colombia was historically a US client state. Only very recently did the left get close to power.

Supposedly it's increased in the last few years in Venezuela but even then it's only increased because there's no money to be made elsewhere, as every other major revenue source is sanctioned. The whole predicament has been manufactured by the USA.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

Ya Colombia and Perú have always been the drug trafficking states so. These Venezuela accusations came out of nowhere.

[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

It’s particularly goofy taking into account we made Afghanistan our personally poppy/opium cultivators and a million other ways the cia/usa has utilized and profited off illicit drugs

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

Drug trafficking allegations are from the cynical US imperialism playbook for Latin America. They are the evergreen excuse for attacking any group they want to dominate or remove, they do not require any real or substantial basis. Every left wing group or popular leader gets branded a Narco at the earliest opportunity, including by domestic US-sycophantic liberals. It is an easy accusation to make because the left tends to embed with the poor, rural, and indigenous, and every racist and classist trope abroad and domestically feeds into the idea that all those groups are narco-adjascent.

Keep in mind that some groups are related to narcos, but even that is not some kind of scarlet letter, but the propaganda treats it that way. Oh, a country dominated by imperialism and forced into having a state that allows gangs also produces and exports drugs? Who is surprised by this? The US installs gangsters in these countries and uses them to support regime change! Would it actually, morally, be wrong to take a piece of those profits to fight for your people? No, but the propaganda machine will label you as justifiably murderable, genocidable, and cite this as an excuse.