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[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 56 points 18 hours ago (7 children)

Unrelated to that exact image but I'm gonna rant about other windows shit because I feel like it.

Windows decided my page file needed to be 80 GB. I do not want it to be 90 GB. I go to the start menu and search up "page file" to see if there's a settings menu. First result is a random file in an application's directory that can't be opened/displayed by any program on my PC, then a list of other unrelated files.

So I open Control Panel, hoping to find it where I did before, and I click on System. What do you know, that menu no longer exists, and redirects to Windows Settings. Where do I go from here? Maybe the giant Installed RAM section because the page file is just a (overly simplified) method of extending your memory to your disk? No, of course not, that menu's not actually a menu, it's just a stat counter.

Instead, I have to go to Device Specifications, then the section titled Related links, then click Advanced system settings. Oh whaddaya know? Now I'm in the settings menu that used to be behind the original System option in Control Panel!

Now I'm in the Advanced tab of that menu. But where do I go from here? That's right, Performance Options, and then another Advanced tab!!!

Then I have to click the Change button, where Windows has... conveniently enabled System managed size so it could choose to set my page file to 80 GB.

I edit, it, hit Ok, have to hit Apply in the other menu too, have to close out the no-longer-needed Settings and Control Panel windows that only served as a maze to get me here in the first place, and THEN I can restart my computer to reduce the size of the page file, even though it is currently not in use by any program, and all data is in RAM, and the file could reasonably be shrunk by the system at any time.

After the restart, this process begins all over again, because this is my third attempt, and Windows automatically reverts back to managing the size itself, and sets it to 80 GB. I have 5 GB of storage space left on my disk.

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 9 hours ago

at this point arch linux is more user-friendly

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I empathize with this slightly non-ideal situation.

But can you imagine how insane it would be if you were told to do something like copy/paste swapoff /swap && truncate -s 8G /swap && swapon /swap into a terminal? TEXT? Like a caveman? The horror! The heresy! How can anyone be expected to do something so complicated! This is entirely unreasonable UX and the reason why Linux is straight up unusable.

Btw here's 15 bazillion commands in a .ps to perhaps disable some of the ads in your start menu until the next time your computer reboots.

[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 6 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

I agree with the sentiment, and it would definitely make a lot of troubleshooting easier, but you do gotta remember that 99% of people are so non-technical they won't read anything going into their terminal, or if they do, they won't know what it means.

You could just as easily replace that with sudo rm -rf /* and they'd run it just as quickly, and that's my worry.

IMO we should just have settings menus alongside commands for most things any normal user might have to encounter, since that's just a more user-friendly interface in terms of preventing accidental bad command execution and also just letting people find things on their own without having to look up a command every time if they don't want to learn a short book's worth of terminal commands.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 58 minutes ago

IMO we should just have settings menus alongside commands for most things

So like KDE

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago

The kind of person who blindly runs commands also blindly runs any .exe or .bat they download from github which is not any better.

Of course in an ideal world there'd be a perfect GUI for everything, and we've gotten a lot better at that in the last few years. But it's not like windows is lacking in things that are only configurable through CLI or the registry (which is even more opaque). I'm not saying Linux is perfect, just pointing out the hypocrisy.

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

IMO we should just have settings menus alongside commands for most things any normal user might have to encounter, since that’s just a more user-friendly interface in terms of preventing accidental bad command execution and also just letting people find things on their own without having to look up a command every time if they don’t want to learn a short book’s worth of terminal commands.

THIS. As a lifelong Windows user I'd rather deal with layers of shitty GUI, than having to memorise terminal commands and always pay attention not to mistype them lest I fuck my system up.

I can't switch to Linux yet due to lack of support from my essential programs, but even if it wasn't for those, I'd still be annoyed if I had to use a terminal to change settings in my system.

[–] toddestan@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago

As I say, when you're hunting around for something in Windows and you come across a dialog box that came straight from Windows XP.... you're getting close.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 28 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

The descent into advanced Advanced menus really is the cherry on top of this shit muffin.

[–] bequirtle@lemmy.world 19 points 16 hours ago

Had to go through this the other day. At the third consecutive "advanced settings" menu I wondered if this was some kind of sick joke

[–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 17 points 16 hours ago

All this yes. If you're actually looking for help, you have to also click "set" after changing the page file settings.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world -1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Would you recommend MS make it easy for idiots to fuck with the page file?

[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yes?

If my page file is set to 80 GB by default but isn't being used by applications because my actual RAM utilization is always under 80%, and they have a dedicated settings menu for it, you'd think they could make getting to that settings menu not take a minimum of 8 separate clicks (assuming you have memorized exactly where to go from the start, and never click the wrong button or link), 4 separate menus, 2 nested "Advanced" menus, and multiple fields and checkboxes to tick off and edit after all of that, just to say "Use less of my disk for the page file". This could literally be a slider in Settings.

The page file doesn't cause major system instability if you adjust its size, unless you're constantly using much more RAM than your system has, and the page file is manually set extremely small.

It just helps keep your system more stable by offloading excess data that can't be stored in RAM to your disk. My entire computer, even under heavy load, never needs more then 2-5 GB of space on top of my RAM, and that's when I'm running games at max settings, my browser with 40 tabs open, and multiple instances of 3D design software in the background, hardly a common enough occurrence for Windows to justify going "eh, maybe they'll actually need 80 GB, you never know", and never letting me change it even after I restart.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 1 points 6 minutes ago

Swap is also used to offload data in RAM that's used infrequently to instead prioritise caching data that doesn't need to be in RAM but is nevertheless used more frequently.

If you're playing Dark Souls and have a web browser open in the background, each time you die the game may need to re-load some level data or assets from disk (e.g. they relate to the area you respawn in, but not where you keep dying). If the computer can instead keep those in RAM, you can respawn faster. If it has to put Chrome on disk that may be a worthwhile tradeoff.