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I haven't seen a good refutation of it, to be honest. It's certainly short, and thus generally simplistic, but it does help understand why authority itself is not something that is intrinsically bad. Calling it "the worst drivel ever written" is a clear stretch, even as an exaggeration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVBAfldc7SU
You're not seriously looking. And no I'm not going to further debate after
I've seen Anark's video, and I maintain that I still haven't seen a good refutation of On Authority. You don't have to debate me or anything, but attacking people for thinking it has some good points and then dipping on the first pushback, asserting that I must not be aware of the standard arguments against it because I disagree with you is a bit silly. It's like you forget that I used to be an anarchist, and thus had a process where I regularly viewed anarchist critique of Marxism before becoming a Marxist-Leninist (and still check out critique from time to time).
Oh well, happy New Year!
Happy new year too. You can maintain all you want, but nobody owes you a debate.
Lol, you absolute coward: running away to get your Nazi sycophants to fluff your wounded ego for you.
It's fascinating that in response to me pointing out they can only criticize short works is to continue criticizing short works, which is fine, but interesting.
They didn't criticize it at all though, they posted a link to a video about someone else criticizing it. I'm still not convinced they have actually ever bothered to read it at all.
Sure, I'm not pressing you for one. Have a good one.
Edit: Seriously? This is me "tripling down," because I disagree with the video you linked and refused to elaborate on? I'm not asking for a debate, just for you to act more reasonably. Instead, you run off and badmouth be behind my back. This is ridiculous.
How much you wanna bet deceptichum @ quokk.a or w/e is a chud just stirring shit and db0 is too much of a loser to notice
Based on my interactions with both, the former is a "true believer" to the point of calling Nazis freed from prison during the Hungarian counter revolution in 1956 genuine progressives fighting against soviet authoritarianism, and the latter is cognizant of that but keeps them around to trigger the "tankies."
Didn't they go as far as saying the extermination of Soviet citizens by the Nazis was a good thing, and db0 defended it because these people will always side with fascists over leftists
That was another user that made that claim, but the same reasoning they are tolerated, they "trigger the tankies." The user that made the claim claims that they thought the 27 million casualties were only in the Red Army, but that's still a disgusting statement to make and is exactly an example of faux-anarchists siding with fascists over communists.
I'm not completely sure that was honest. It wasn't the first time that user had made that exact argument and faced backlash for it. IIRC I found one from about 10 months prior in the modlog and there was at least one reply that explained that that was not the case. Likely that's not the only time that user did that and not the only clarifying reply that user received. Also, as you say, that's still nazi apologia.
Agreed, I'm unconvinced as well, my point is that even if we take them at their word most charitably it's still Nazi apologia.
I get the not owing a debate but damn that's embarrassing to do. And completely expected at this point
Yea, like I didn't really want a debate on it either, just wanted to state my experience with it.
In b4 the disengage and banning you from his instance because you called him out.
I like a lot of dbzer0 users, it's unfortunate that the head admin behaves this way. dbzer0 as an instance has a lot of cool people and a lot of really uncool people, so defederation isn't something I support, but I wouldn't be surprised if this kind of thing eventually leads to that.
I'm surprised db0 hasn't defederated from Hexbear yet. Probably likes playing the victim too much to ever do that. I didn't realise who it was at first so their childish and incoherent responses were very confusing. It was a fun rollercoaster of a conversation though.
There are a lot of anarchists on Hexbear, and some of the dbzer0 mods and admins aren't actually as anti-ML as db0 is. dbzer0 does have some degree of democracy in their decision making practice, so these two factors are why it's still fine.
Oh ok, based on what I've seen, I thought db0 basically ruled like a (completely non-authoritarian) king on their instance, good to see it isn't just like that.
db0 certainly has outsized influence, but there's a pretty broad diversity in thought throughout the instance itself, moreso than here, for good and bad. I've spoken with some cool comrades over there, so I try to refrain from discounting the entire project.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: