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A lot of people get fed up with slow or no progress, so they fall for supporting approaches that "get things done." Even though they go very wrong, and by that point, some are too lost in the sauce to admit it's wrong or severely off-base.
Being involved in anarchist and decentralized leftist orgs, it's very discouraging how few people care and how little power we have.
Often times it takes weeks of planning and everybody's collective effort and spare resources to provide meals to a few dozen people, or to host a single information booth or class at a larger leftist meet up.
After years of that, the temptations of centralized power to just dictate to the masses what will happen is very strong. The justification goes something like, "yeah there are a ton of problems with XYZ, but at least they are accomplishing ABC!"
I feel it too when I look around my country of the USA. Sure China is State-capitalist, authoritarian, pseudo-dystopian police state, and super politically repressive. But god damn it, they have some of the best public transport in the world, a kickass tech and manufacturing sector, solid public healthcare, and the actually imprison and even execute billionaire scumbags...
When I have to encounter the level of American idiocy on a weekly basis, listen to the most asinine politicians and talking heads, and endure capitalist bootlicking propaganda everywhere, I start to get really tempted to advocate for the China way...
I think you're probably the only person in this thread that's actually tried to put yourself in our shoes and see things from our perspective. I still disagree with calling China a capitalist country and I think calling a nation-state terms like authoritarian, police-state, etc is redundant. But thanks for actually thinking it through and not making it a pure us vs them issue.
So it boils down to "at least the trains run on time"?
No it boils down to "we kicked the Japanese fascists out and have a pretty decent standard of living now compared to the rest of the world"
Not OP but I think they are sold on the "consequences for billionaires" part
Wumao shills are everywhere now.
"Everyone who disagrees with me is corrupt and lying" lol cope