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but in italy's case it was kinda gladio's stay behind stay-behinds no? they just continued to run into the 90s, might as well take power no biggie, they are pre-approbed by being gladio adjacent cell
There's so little hard evidence on Gladio that I'm reluctant to make any claims on hard facts about it, aside from the obvious parts. When we finally get access to the CIA and Italian intelligence archives it's going to be an interesting time.
The thing for me is that they obviously did operate as a stay-behind network but to have a very committed and powerful network that functioned over such a time period (especially if you count Propaganda Massonica in this, which bumps it up to existing for over two centuries [!!]) it takes more than the US just throwing money and guns at you.
Idk I'm no historian when it comes to Freemasons. But P2 definitely gives me pause.
i had passing interest in them, but they mainly operated like gentleman (exclusively tee-hee) clubs all over europe and america in the 18-19th century, in america they would wax poetic about free markets, in russia - about liberalism, in france about how much of a dipshit louis was. It was basically national interest groups, without any overriding global priorities, with larp characteristics. so like, sure, they could get into power and start spreading in nepotism like fashion, but that's same as country club in usa today. some lodges were just as likely to go full larp about ancient egyptians and finance expeditions for mummies as they were to seek power.
such informal infrastructure is like catnip for any intelligence, just as church is