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I generally dislike writing off people (or groups or things) based on a soundbite or a hashtag - I'd much rather evaluate for myself whether there's any decent and informative point to the content.
#mgtow though... The very presence of it makes one cringe, and I can't think of an occasion when it hasn't descended into a dumpster fire from there.
I suppose it's nice of them to flag their own content so well really.
The concept of it isn't intrinsically bad. There's nothing wrong with men who just want to be single and focus on things other than relationships. The problem arose when it was co-opted by hateful incels and misogynists.
Co-opted my ass. It was started by incels pretending to be stoics.
Yeah, I miss when I didn't know what it really meant. My imagined world was so wholesome
Genuinely curious, your world was wholesome before that single fact?
no no the world i imagined all those mgtow people making their threads about, with guys throwing their own tea parties for themselves and going on little hikes by themselves and having little log cabins for their pet screaming possums. i don't live in the real world it's scary out there
I understand now, I genuinely didn't get what you said before. I learned about incels and mgtow at the same time, so I knew that they are literally the same thing under a different name (misogynist, violent, hateful and very partial to the fat right). The abbreviation sounds very harmless.
It overall reminded me why I fucking hate social media in general.
Huh, must have changed a bit. When I came across it years ago it seemed like a reasonably healthy response for an incel - stop worrying about women and work on yourself.