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No vegetable gardens, no wildflowers, no trees. What kind of yard is just boring old grass!?
It's what the yard of a fox-hunting English lord reduces to when limited to a single lot with no budget for a gardener
and no snakes in the grass
“What kind of yard” the only one the HOA allows
There's a whole fucking forest right behind the houses.
Vegetables don't grow in the forest, like to look at flowers in the garden where I can see them, if you plant an apple tree you get shade and apples. There are many reasons to have a garden, but none of them are "look at all that grass
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but a forest around the houses would make summers bearable and the yards/decks usable in good weather.
Not if it's 100 feet away or more, depending upon which "friend" you are, casting absolutely no shade on your hot ass deck and leading to massively increased AC bills because you get direct sunlight 13 hours a day.
yes, but my point was to plant a forest in the yard so it's all completely shaded. no direct sunlight below the treetops. ever.
Honestly my bad I was trying to dunk on the suburb apologist and hit a comrade by not paying close enough attention to which thread I was replying to.
rain + wind gusts = tree on house
i've lived in houses on tree-lined streets most of my life and while this does happen, it's pretty rare. meanwhile, they provide shade every day in the warmer months, and look nicer than grass even in the winter, when they're bare.
cutting down all the trees so none of them can ever fall on your house seems like a bad tradeoff.
I guess it depends on where you live, growing up where I did it was considered a pretty major hazard and would cause issues with insurance.
Not that there was no trees, but you did have to be conscious of where they could fall and it was frequent that larger ones would be removed if too close to a house.
Basically grew up on top of a swamp that gets hit by hurricanes though, so maybe not a ubiquitous experience
we get a tree torn out (or at least significant parts of it torn off) every two years or so just in my neighborhood, when a summer storm gets funneled down into a narrow street. they sometimes crush cars, and i guess they sometimes fall into buildings. the individual chance is extremely low, and the neighborhood is immeasurably better for all the trees. you can walk to the store in the shade for the most part, it's amazing.
That's very unlikely. Unless you live in a hurricane/tornado area but you'd have worse problems than your own tree leaning on your roof
I am thinking of hurricane areas yeah, it kills people
I was mostly addressing the point that there were no trees.
It's fair, but urban trees are also important for cooling houses and shading streets, and providing extra nesting ground and habitat for urban species (so they're not all forced into isolated pockets).
But I want one in my yaaaaaaard