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Not sure who’s downvoting this but the claim is verifiable.
Here’s a John Hopkins report from 2023: https://publichealth.jhu.edu/center-for-gun-violence-solutions/data/annual-gun-violence-data
What I think is the most interesting, and a fact I learned taking a firearms safety course here in Canada, is that the highest risk remains suicide.
From the report: Gun suicides have accounted for the majority of all gun deaths each year since 1995.
Having a gun can turn that fleeting ideation into a permanent decision real quick.
Gun is probably the easiest cheapest way to access assisted suicide in the USA. That not-so-fleeting ideation probably drives a lot of people to the local Walmart to get a gun since its easier than getting a doctors appointment.
I personally think suicide is my right. Also when someone says that they want a gun to protect themselves... and someone states that it's more likely to result in a gun death, but forgets to mention the suicide part.... it's disingenuous and that's probably why the downvotes. Say the whole statistic. Maybe it really is a mental health crisis and not a gun problem. The biggest danger to a gun owner is themself. It gives you the power to end your life at your leisure which is really bad.... because you haven't created enough shareholder value or paid enough taxes yet. How can you consider buying a gun to end your life when it life itself is so fucking magical ya know?
Either way Smith and Wesson issues my insurance policy. This is America people.
Kind of feel like we’re talking past each other.
Suicide is your right. No qualms with that. I support thoughtful assisted dying and no one can stop you from taking your own life if you are determined to do so.
But the comment mentioning a dramatically increased probability of death by firearm isn’t disingenuous. They were answering someone talking about acquiring a firearm to protect themselves from others. I think it’s reasonable to remind anyone considering a firearm for self protection to understand they’re more likely to die by firearm as a result of that choice no matter how the death occurs. Even if suicide is the bulk of gun deaths it’s not the only cause - and so while being even more fully informed is helpful, I don’t agree that the warning is misleading in any way, I’d argue it remains just as factual.
It also doesn’t have to be either or: it can be both a mental health crisis and a gun crisis.
I’m also not unilaterally anti-firearm; I enjoy long distance marksmanship and hand loading precision cartridges quite a bit. That said, I understand the choices I’m making and the risks that come with them; taking every precaution I can to protect those around me from harm.
Totally agree with you, I mostly take quarrel with OP you were replying to. Yes owning a gun makes you much more likely to die in a gun incident. It opens to door to so many preventable tragedies in your own home. I just feel like that statistic demands the explanation that this includes people who bought a gun with the intention of suicide. It includes all the people who bought a gun with intention to resolve a conflict. It includes the biggest most negligent idiots you know, who will probably be shot by their children in a "tragic" accident. If you're a law abiding, risk mitigating person scared of ICE showing up at your door.... and you'd like a fire arm because that feels tyrannical, I'm gonna say you're gonna be a wee bit better off than the statistic suggests.
IKYK, sounds like we have similar views on firearms in America. Bit of a quagmire innit. Hate watching it be discussed without nuance.